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Dr. Dose
Amateur Bodybuilder
(Total posts: 8)
posted June 22, 2000 03:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dr. Dose   Click Here to Email Dr. Dose     Edit/Delete Message
Hey guy, I would just like to know what on earth I could use to get my arms to grow? I tryed training them every possible way and they don't want to grow, even when on the juice. I was thinking injecting winstrol into then to stretch the muscle fibers, or using synthol. Tell me what you would do in my case. Also where is the best place to inject on the bi's and tri's. Thanks in advance.

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El_Ess_Dee_25
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted June 22, 2000 04:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for El_Ess_Dee_25   Click Here to Email El_Ess_Dee_25     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 5286328
shit man fuck thats what id like to know too.my biceps arent getting any bigger.

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BigTruck
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted June 22, 2000 12:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BigTruck   Click Here to Email BigTruck     Edit/Delete Message
How's your diet? How often do you work out? How many sets are you doing on your arms? Is your form good? Are you fast-twitch or slow twitch? What are their current measurements? Do you train all body parts? What height/weight/bf% are you?

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studcj
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posted June 22, 2000 12:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for studcj   Click Here to Email studcj     Edit/Delete Message
Here, I have a no-fail program guranteed to work.

You have to pray every 30 minutes to the "arm gods".

I always pray to bicipius and tritaurus. Pray every 30 min. And make sure everybody see's you. If you cry when you pray, that will usually add an extra inch or so.


Hey, it worked for Ronnie.

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m2a5s0s
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted June 22, 2000 12:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for m2a5s0s     Edit/Delete Message
trucks got a good point in there dr, form is important to growth, at least that has been my experience, try concentrating on your form, it may do the trick

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morereps
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted June 22, 2000 12:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for morereps   Click Here to Email morereps     Edit/Delete Message
Biceps are my weakness also.
They just don't respond well for me.
Would like more info from the Bro's.
The rest of my body seems to grow much faster then my biceps.

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Twisted_Steel
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posted June 22, 2000 12:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twisted_Steel   Click Here to Email Twisted_Steel     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 754174
Honestly, without seeing your training habits, your diet, your disipline, knowing squat shit about you, age, number of years involved. How in the hell can anyone on an online forum be expected to answer that question? Honestly, seek the advice of a gym training, local bodybuilder, someone who can focus on you in person.

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Dr. Dose
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted June 22, 2000 03:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dr. Dose   Click Here to Email Dr. Dose     Edit/Delete Message
Here it is guys. I'm 6'0", 205lbs at 10% body fat, arms are at 16 inches , have been training about 2.5 years and have a good diet so I know that is not the problem. I have been on bulking diets and cutting diets. I also have done about 5 cycles of mostly test (omnadren), dbol, cypionate, and am on a cycle of dbol and winstrol currently. Do you guys think that it would be a good idea to inject the winstrol in to the bi's? Also how about synthol and where is the best place to inject the stuff. thanks

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FitnessChick
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted June 22, 2000 03:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FitnessChick   Click Here to Email FitnessChick     Edit/Delete Message
try mixing up your workout to shock your arms...try pre exhaust, supersetting, giant sets, piggybacking......there are so many ways to shock your arms to get them to respond.....what do you currently do for them....

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BigTruck
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted June 22, 2000 03:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BigTruck   Click Here to Email BigTruck     Edit/Delete Message
Do you train all of your body parts? If not, you could be missing out on gains that a well-balanced body will allow because of adequate strength ratios between muscle groups.

You still didn't post your volume of training or how often you train. You could simply be overtraining them (or your entire body) in general. (too many sets or too many workouts per week) I like 4 -5 workouts a week, 6 - 8 (balls out) work sets on bis, about 9 or 10 on tris.

Remember, relatively, arm muscles are the smallest muscles in your body and they're already being hit hard on all back (bis) and chest/shoulder (tris) movements. While I'm on the subject, how are your tris? Tris are 70% of your arm -- don't focus on bis at the expense of your tris.

Also, are you a 'fisher' (i.e. lean forward and then pull back with the bar to get momentum through the sticking point)? Make sure you aren't always using momentum to move the bar -- drop your weights if you have to. Form is critical.

Do you let the bar fall in a vertical on your eccentrics or do you consciously arc the bar away from your body?

Is your time under tension (TUT) 40 - 60 secs per set or are you going above/below that?

Do you break your wrists when you curl (let them fall back away from your body). This will help isolate your biceps even more.

These are just a few key variables that need to be addressed, make sure all of these things are taken into account before you even consider :-(synthol.

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Gilbyag
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posted June 22, 2000 03:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gilbyag     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Dr Dose, I wont tell you why because you Itll probably piss you off. But youve just made my day. I know now all the hard training, dieting, sleeping and sacraficing what could be an awsome social life has been worth it.

Sorry, but the rest of these bros. prbably have better input than I do. So I wont give any.

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45Plates
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posted June 22, 2000 03:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 45Plates   Click Here to Email 45Plates     Edit/Delete Message
Fitnesschick has some good ideas, try shocking the muscle, or if you want I guess you could try pgf2a (Lutalyse (sp) although I don't know if it's a good idea to shoot it in your arms. My .02

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Eramthgin
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posted June 22, 2000 10:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eramthgin   Click Here to Email Eramthgin     Edit/Delete Message
Size means low reps huge weight. Lots of gear....shooting the biceps will help. After you get your size then huge reps medium weight.

Work both the biceps and the bicep brachii.

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Pup'nIrn
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posted June 22, 2000 10:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pup'nIrn   Click Here to Email Pup'nIrn     Edit/Delete Message
Most of the time its not how you train your arms but whether you train your larger muscle groups with heavy movements. Heavy rows, presses, pulldowns are sometimes enough to do the trick. Usually people get so focused on improving there arms they severly overtrain them. If you think about the fact they are working their asses off in every upper body movement you can easily see they made getting trained 5-6 times a week. I suggest evaluating you lifting schedule and seeing how much rest they really get.

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WCP
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posted June 23, 2000 12:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for WCP   Click Here to Email WCP     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 39184064
To the best of my knowledge, winstrol will do nothing for spot injecting.

Synthol is temporary...wouldnt do it either.

Pgf2a can be used for spot injections will pretty good results. From what I understand it hurts like a bitch, and will cause some almost unbearable pumps. The half life is measured in minutes on this stuff, so it must be injected many times a day.

It is not only shown to kill fat cells but to cause extreme anabolism in the muscle fibers its shot into. Not a good idea however to stack this with anyother gear.

later,
WCP

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Dr. Dose
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted June 23, 2000 05:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dr. Dose   Click Here to Email Dr. Dose     Edit/Delete Message
This is how I currently train:
mon - chest
tues - back
wed - off
thurs - shoulders
fri - arms
sat - off
sun - legs
My arm training goes like this:
1. straight bar curl (2 warm up) 3 heavy sets, 6 reps.
2. dbell curl (palms out all the time, also sitting down when doing) 3 sets, 6 reps.
3. hammeer curls against pad with dbell, 3 sets, 6 reps each. I do negatives here sometimes.
Now the tri's:
1. weighted dips
2. Close grip bench press
3. rope pulldowns
The sets and reps are the same as with the bi's. Also how much does pgf2a go for? And how much would I need of it. Thanks again everyone.

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THESAINT
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted June 23, 2000 09:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for THESAINT   Click Here to Email THESAINT     Edit/Delete Message
Lutalyse goes for $16 to $18 from a vet supply. Gym price is $40 to $60. I would
raise my reps to 15,12,10,8,6

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bignate73
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted June 23, 2000 09:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bignate73   Click Here to Email bignate73     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 65081685
yeah im with saint on that too, vary the rep range, it helps.

for tris, hit some skull crushers keeping your elbows in to hit the long head. itll pack on some meat for sure. hit some pressdowns but keep the bottom of the rep about 8-10 inches in front of your hips so your arms are at a slight angle infront of you. keep the stress on the tricep. tris i like to train and they respond for me.
biceps im not so good with. i try to keep basic, straight bar curls around 6 sets descending reps each set. try some drop sets to spice up your training too. wide grip preachers get offset the hammer curls.
form is everything with arms. sheer weight can be lifted and the benefits of it not utilized. you have to be in control of the weight throughout the movement to get full benefit. good luck. peace.

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