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  everyone who has experience using a gram of t200 or over.......your opinions please..

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deadliftr
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posted June 20, 2000 02:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for deadliftr   Click Here to Email deadliftr     Edit/Delete Message
i'm on a 10 weeker of 3cc ref-b (weks 1-5) and a gram of t200 (weeks 1-10).......judging from experience.....how long does a gram take to kick?


thanks in advance for any replies...

dl20

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bad brains
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posted June 20, 2000 02:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bad brains   Click Here to Email bad brains     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 68109812
Hey bro, I would not do a gram a week for 10 weeks, I would taper it. If you don't you may be in for a crash. I like T-200 but it gives me acne pretty bad, and as far as doing a gram I have and liked it but you gonna have to taper.

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jdismukes
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posted June 20, 2000 02:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jdismukes   Click Here to Email jdismukes     Edit/Delete Message
I have used up to 600mg, I am sure it would be fine to use 1 gram but I would taper.

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elitefitnessboy
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posted June 20, 2000 02:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for elitefitnessboy   Click Here to Email elitefitnessboy     Edit/Delete Message
I shot 1800 one week, I got really mad, got zits, and wasted a lot of juice. Taper up and taper back down.

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Monster
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posted June 20, 2000 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Monster   Click Here to Email Monster     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 35077339
Bro, dont taper up. This is one of the biggest contributors to gyno there is! The taper down is a must, but tapering up then down is very hard on your endocrine system.
Gyno does NOT come from having a lot of estrogen in your system, gyno comes from a fluction of the level of testosterone to estrogen. Tapering would seem to cause a slow adjustment to the amount of test. to estrogen, but as it turns out, that is NOT helpful. What happens is your "levels" fluctuate a little, then they fluctuate a little more, then they fluctuate a little more, then they fluctuate a little more...
Does this give your body a chance to slowly adjust??? NO! It causes your endocrine system to be in a constant state of upheaval.
That first week of tapering up, your body is trying to bring a balance, then all of a sudden its out of whack again and its trying to regulate all over the next week, and over and over... So your level of testosterone to estrogen is so fucked up that BAM, you got gyno...
The people I work with use 1000mg of test a week or more, and many take NO anti estrogens, and none get gyno. A guy I work with now had tapered up to 600mg and back down when he cycles and got mild gyno. Now that tried it the way I suggested, he cycles and his gyno hasnt worsened.
Granted, some of us are more sensative to aromatization than others, but why risk it?
Tapering down is VERY neccesary for many drugs, though, so definatly do it...

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deadliftr
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posted June 20, 2000 10:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for deadliftr   Click Here to Email deadliftr     Edit/Delete Message
thanks for the replies guys, i am tapering i just meant i'm hittin a gram for 10 weeks then tapering.......still though how long for the gram to kick....thanx

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The Ranger
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posted June 20, 2000 11:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Ranger   Click Here to Email The Ranger     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 67366885
Enanthnate is slow....around 4 weeks to see the effects.....the ref-b will rock ya very quickly...as you come off, the t22 will be kicking...you'll hardly notice...but, everyone else will...heh heh heh!!!

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big_guy1
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posted June 20, 2000 11:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for big_guy1   Click Here to Email big_guy1     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 5126477
I would taper it some at the end, not just end witha gram...but it still take a couple weeks to kick in for me...I use quick acting stuff in the beginning...

big-guy

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johndoe
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posted June 21, 2000 09:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for johndoe   Click Here to Email johndoe     Edit/Delete Message
I plan on using a gram of T200 a week for six weeks with 600mgs of Deca and Dbol thrown in. Dbol over a period of five weeks, tapering down the last couple of weeks. Deca and T200 will be tapered down during weeks seven through nine. Winny gets added in on week seven and runs until week thirteen. Clomid during the entire cycle. The point is that the Test will take about three weeks to begin to kick in and the Deca and Dbol wil hit almost the first day. No need to taper up. Always taper down.

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The_Blond_Myth
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posted June 21, 2000 10:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for The_Blond_Myth   Click Here to Email The_Blond_Myth     Edit/Delete Message
Same cycle I am on, just started yesterday...God I love ref-b!
Maybe taper for one week, 1,000 to 500 the next week or 1,000, 500, 500. Really if u want to do it right come off onto an anabolic. Eq, winny, Deca. all are good choices

LP

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jawoak
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posted June 21, 2000 10:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jawoak   Click Here to Email jawoak     Edit/Delete Message
I'm getting ready to start a 8 week cycle of t200 today. I plan on taking 600mg per week for the first 5 weeks then tapering down for the last 3. I plan on taking clomid every other day for the last 4 weeks and proviron every ohter day (if my damn order ever comes in!!!!!!!!) throughout the cycle. If i can get my hands on some equipoise or winny i'm going to throw it in around the 5th week and continue for a few weeks afterward. What do you guys think? This is the first time I've tried to use test as my primary drug, usually opting for dbol or a combination thereof.
thanks for the help

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deadliftr
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posted June 21, 2000 10:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for deadliftr   Click Here to Email deadliftr     Edit/Delete Message
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deadliftr
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posted June 21, 2000 10:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for deadliftr   Click Here to Email deadliftr     Edit/Delete Message
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oversized
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posted June 21, 2000 11:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for oversized     Edit/Delete Message
T200 was not something that i actually felt flowing through my system. BUT week to week i just kept getting stronger and stronger. I liked it alot and was only at 600mg per week for 6 weeks or so. But either way. I didn't really understand how it worked until about the 3rd week of use. then after i looked at my weight increases on my workout program and made comparisons i found it to be astounding. so good luck. a test/ dbol cycle is one hell of a good strength/mass gainer. Atleast that is what my experiences have shown me

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