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charliehorse
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posted June 19, 2000 10:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charliehorse     Edit/Delete Message
First off thanks for all the support, this is by far the coolest site. Now to my question, Since this is my first cycle I was wondering the best way to lift Heavy as I can control or lighter and more reps what's the best way to grow? look for help!

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Some bodies are temples, I want my to be a FORTRESS!!

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SSMAN
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posted June 19, 2000 10:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SSMAN   Click Here to Email SSMAN     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 74456922
When you're on a cycle stick to the basics....compound movements that involve more muscle groups. Save the isolation type movements for cutting, shaping, and defining. I've found success working with heavy weight and strict form. I lift the weight that will allow me to hit failure in the 6-8 rep range.

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Monster
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posted June 19, 2000 11:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Monster   Click Here to Email Monster     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 35077339
Disregard what most of the magazine articles say abuot what the pros do. They lift heavy all year, even when cutting.
To me its the only way to lift!

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SSMAN
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posted June 19, 2000 11:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SSMAN   Click Here to Email SSMAN     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 74456922
Isolation movements, lower weight, and higher reps do have a very important role in shaping and defining. They aren't appropriate during a mass cycle, but if you hit the muscle with the same load continually it will adapt and will not respond with growth.

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charliehorse
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posted June 20, 2000 12:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charliehorse     Edit/Delete Message
There are some real monsters out there and BY GOD I WANT TO BE ONE OF THEM!! To much size is never enough.

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StoneColdGold
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posted June 20, 2000 01:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StoneColdGold   Click Here to Email StoneColdGold     Edit/Delete Message
This is a little off the topic, but I have to disagree with SSMan's statement that "lower weights and higher reps play an important role in shaping and defining." I have to disagree with this from a philosophical standpoint. I am of the school of thought which teaches that a muscle is doing one of two things: either growing or not growing. So, if you want to have better shape and definition, just get your muscles bigger and your bodyfat lower.

I'm not saying I know what the best way to make a muscle get bigger is, but I think its probably erroneous to suggest that certain rep/set/weight schemes can actually change the shape of a muscle while other schemes wont. I think muscle shape (length of muscle bellies, fiber ratios, location of tendon attachments, etc.) is probably strictly genetic.

But then again, SSMan is now over 280 FUCKING POUNDS, so what the hell do I know.

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SSMAN
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posted June 20, 2000 03:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SSMAN   Click Here to Email SSMAN     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 74456922
Stonecold....you're on the right track bro, just dig a little deeper. You're correct in stating that muscle is either in a state of hyertrophy (growing) or atrophy (shrinking)......but muscle will adapt to any given load if unchanged for too long. Put it to the test....train with 80% of your 1RM for 3 months. Your gains in the first month will be incredible....the 2nd month, a bit less....by the 3rd month you'll be in a nasty state of stagnation. Then switch your routine up a bit.....try some new movements and increase your reps a bit. Your body will explode with growth. I speak from experience on this......give it a try

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Thick dog
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posted June 20, 2000 09:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Thick dog     Edit/Delete Message
I like a 6-8 rep range on large multijoint movements, and 10-12 rep range on smaller single joint/isolation type movements. I always try to remember to do eccentric phase, or when the muscle is being stretched, slowly and contract the muscle forcefully. For example, on the bench press, bring the bar down to your chest slow and controlled, and press it up forcefully and a little more explosively. This is how you build maximum power and strength.

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