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Jim Layhoe
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posted June 18, 2000 11:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jim Layhoe   Click Here to Email Jim Layhoe     Edit/Delete Message
I was told this aromatizes very very easily.
I want to know how much a week max you guys feel i should work up to.(without getting boobs) also please keep in mind i want to take a cost effective dose.

I have Depot test. by upjon, and I know 110%
that it is real.

I took my first shot Thurs. 1cc and I am going to work my way up to 3-4 then back
down.

I have clomid & nolvadex on hand as well.

I want to do a 12 week cycle. Anyone with cyp
exp. please give me your knowledge.


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superdave
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posted June 18, 2000 11:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for superdave   Click Here to Email superdave     Edit/Delete Message
Id like to know too, I got cyp from S. Africa that Im about to do for 10 weeks. MY opoinion is that it wont have any more sides than enanthate.

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Jim Layhoe
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posted June 18, 2000 11:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jim Layhoe   Click Here to Email Jim Layhoe     Edit/Delete Message
bump

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Jim Layhoe
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posted June 18, 2000 11:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jim Layhoe   Click Here to Email Jim Layhoe     Edit/Delete Message
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Jim Layhoe
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posted June 18, 2000 11:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jim Layhoe   Click Here to Email Jim Layhoe     Edit/Delete Message

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Jim Layhoe
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posted June 18, 2000 12:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jim Layhoe   Click Here to Email Jim Layhoe     Edit/Delete Message
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Krusher
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posted June 18, 2000 12:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Krusher   Click Here to Email Krusher     Edit/Delete Message
Cyp will aromitize just like any other test, it's impossible to say at what dose you will get titties. Some people will get titties from only 200mg/wk while others can take 1500mg/wk with no problems, each individual person will respond differently. I will tell you from personal experience that if you want to avoid titties you are making a big mistake doing the old diamond pyramid style of cycle. Never increase your test dose slowly up through the cycle, you are elevating your estrogen levels and not giving them a chance to drop. I've taken 1000mg/wk of test then slowly decreases my dose and had no problems, but another time I went 250mg/wk for 2 weeks, then 500mg/wk for 3 weeks, and back down to 250mg/wk and I had sore nipples at that dose when I pyramided up. I would recommend you use 500-750mg/wk for 8 weeks then decrease the dose over the next 4 weeks and have some Nolva handy just in case.

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fishdis02
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posted June 18, 2000 01:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fishdis02   Click Here to Email fishdis02     Edit/Delete Message
I did an eight week cycle of cypionate alone and blew the !#@Q up. I didnt even recognize myself.. I went from around 162 to 191. I took 2 cc's every 5 days for 7 weeks and then 1 cc the last week and clomid at the end of cycle.

Im back to about 178, so I lost about 12 pounds or so.

My next cycle is going to be sus though.. I think the gains are more keepable.

I inflated and then deflated like a balloon

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2Thick
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posted June 18, 2000 02:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 2Thick   Click Here to Email 2Thick     Edit/Delete Message
I would stay around the 200-400mg/week area with a taper at the end. If you would like to keep more of your gains, then you might want to think about stacking it with something like Deca.

You will have to wait and see if you start seeing the symptoms of gyno. That is why you have the Nolvadex on hand. The Clomid EOD will only reduce the water retention a little bit.

Like another brother already said, you will get big very fast, but the gains are not as keep-able as other testoserones.

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Jim Layhoe
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posted June 18, 2000 02:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jim Layhoe   Click Here to Email Jim Layhoe     Edit/Delete Message
Thanx bros.

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pillboy
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posted June 18, 2000 02:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pillboy   Click Here to Email pillboy     Edit/Delete Message
Every one is different when it comes to side effects. I also use the depo from upjohn and I found that anything below 1000mg/week I dont get any gyno symptoms, but once I hit the 1000mg/week my nipples start itchin'. I use clomid 25mg ED so my barries dont shrivle.

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latz
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posted June 21, 2000 09:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for latz     Edit/Delete Message
HAS ANYONE EVER HEARD OF CYCLING? iF YOUR GOING TO USE FUCKING CYPIONATE FOR gOD'S SAKES MAN STACK IT W/ DECA AND DBOL! iF YOUR USING DEPOTESTOSTERONE, USE TWO ML. A WEEK BECAUSE IT'S ONLY 100MG/ML.!!!!!!!!

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Jim Layhoe
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posted June 21, 2000 09:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jim Layhoe   Click Here to Email Jim Layhoe     Edit/Delete Message
Thanx latz your a pioneer.

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THESAINT
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posted June 21, 2000 11:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for THESAINT   Click Here to Email THESAINT     Edit/Delete Message
Latz, The depo in canada is 100mg/ml in
the US it's 200mg/ml.

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Busy_Mind
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posted June 22, 2000 03:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Busy_Mind   Click Here to Email Busy_Mind     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 5850712
I'm thinking about getting some Testo LA, anyone else have any info/experience on this particular item? If so, please e-mail me at [email protected]

Really appreciate it!
~BM~

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Dr. Dose
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posted June 22, 2000 03:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dr. Dose   Click Here to Email Dr. Dose     Edit/Delete Message
I used the same cyp. before and just remember that you will hold a lot of water with it by itself. I don't think that you need more than 400mg per week like 2THICK said, but I also think that you should stack it with something like deca or winstrol to keep the water down and also make the gains more keepable. Just remember if you get big really fast on just test, you also will get small once you go off. You will loose at least half your gains.

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GROTESQUEONE
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posted June 22, 2000 04:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GROTESQUEONE   Click Here to Email GROTESQUEONE     Edit/Delete Message
ALL TESTS ARE THE SAME. THEY ARE TESTOSTERONE WHAT MAKES THEM DIFFERENT IS HOW LONG THE ESTER CHAIN IS. THE ESTER IS WHAT IS ATTACHED TO THE TESTOSTERONE AND DETERMINES WHEN IT WILL KICK IN. ONCE IN BLOOD THE CYP PART WILL BE REMOVED AND YOU WILL HAVE TEST BY ITSELF. SO YOU SEE ALL TESTS ARE THE SAME. EXCEPT FOR THE ESTER. THE SMALLER THE ESTER THE MORE POTENT THE TEST IS PER CC. 100MGS PF PROPIANATE HAS MORE TEST THAN 100MGS CYPIONATE BECAUSE PROP HAS A SMALLER ESTER CHAIN.

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mightydog
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posted June 22, 2000 07:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mightydog   Click Here to Email mightydog     Edit/Delete Message
I take Femara EOD with test cyp and it does a real good job blocking the rise in estrogen levels. I get the blood work to prove it. Then I take clomid at end of cycle. Femara is used for women with advanced breast cancer after the age of menapause.

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