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Dorian
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted June 18, 2000 07:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dorian   Click Here to Email Dorian     Edit/Delete Message
Hey guys...this is like my second post. I've been training 3 years now and I'm gonna start my second cycle soon. My first was'nt too impressive. Nothing like what i've been seing here. I just took 150mg a week deca for 8 weeks and gained around 4kg's. I decided to start taking a year ago but then researched and recearched untill I was blue in the face. I just took my first cycle to sorta get used to the idea of being on roids.

Anyhow,I just turned 20, 5'10 and weigh 98kg's(216lbs,I think). I entered my first comp 2 months ago and took the u21 devision but it was more cause i was ripped than being big. Other guys in my devision were much bigger.I weighed in at 190 with 6% fat.
Right now my fat has gone up to 12 at 98.

I live in South africa and right now the only drugs I can get hold of is sust, deca, andriol and some test esters.
Can get timoxifen(Nolvadex) as well.

Anyway I wanna take sust 250 for round 8 weeks and I'll keep the timoxifen around in case of gyno.
Do you guys think this sorta cycle would work for me or should i take more, cause I'm seing steroid novices on this discussion board doing cycles with up to 750 sust a week.

I eat around 300grams of protein a day and my carbs are also around the 300-400 a day.
7 evenly spaced meals etc etc like were supposed to.

I cant get hold of any clomid. It's really important to me to keep the gains i get otherwise it would just be useless taking it in the first place, so any tips on how to hold on to those gains would be great.

My bodyweight has been up to 230 before but obviously more fat.

As long as I know that most of the gains i make stay untill the next cycle.
Another quistion...how long should I wait after the cycle to start the next one. I've read 6-8 weeks but then on other sites I read if you do only 2 cycles a year your receptors will be cleaner and the drugs would work better.

My dad was a powerlifter but he was no advice as all he did was take dianabol. Quess I'm pretty lucky with the genetics.

Any help would be really great...

Dorian

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Dexter
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted June 18, 2000 08:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dexter   Click Here to Email Dexter     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 71953041
Hey bro, welcome to the board. I have a lot of respect for those who compete; I don't think I'll ever do it.

As you may have noticed, there are two basic schools of thought regarding cycling. My approach is go heavy, so, no, 750 mg. of sust a week for a guy your size would be no big deal.

You can feel free to email me at [email protected] if you have questions about other possibilities.

Dexter


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Dorian
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted June 18, 2000 09:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dorian   Click Here to Email Dorian     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks man, I'd want to take up to 750 but I cant get clomid to get my test back up after, or dont you think it makes a difference to my normalizing if i take 500 or 750?

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Dorian
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posted June 18, 2000 10:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dorian   Click Here to Email Dorian     Edit/Delete Message
just updating

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CornFed
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posted June 18, 2000 10:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CornFed   Click Here to Email CornFed     Edit/Delete Message
Dude 500mg a week will work. especially if you've never done test before. Mix in 250 mg a week of deca and your in business. 750 is not necessary your first time....just an opinion

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rippazoid
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posted June 18, 2000 10:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rippazoid   Click Here to Email rippazoid     Edit/Delete Message
500 should be plenty. it sounds like you got half the game beat as far as comp goes. You won becuase you were more ripped. But to keep competing you are going to need to find Access to some cutting drugs. welcome to the board and good luck! just remember Never sacrifice cuts and conditioning for size when competing.

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Dorian
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posted June 18, 2000 10:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dorian   Click Here to Email Dorian     Edit/Delete Message
yeah, i think it's gonna be 500 then for 6 or so and 250 for the last 2...just still looking for the damn clomid

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Dorian
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posted June 18, 2000 11:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dorian   Click Here to Email Dorian     Edit/Delete Message
what is this bump thing btw?

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Jim Layhoe
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posted June 18, 2000 11:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jim Layhoe   Click Here to Email Jim Layhoe     Edit/Delete Message
same thing as you did up top when you up dated.

It bumps the topic up to the top

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Dorian
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posted June 18, 2000 01:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dorian   Click Here to Email Dorian     Edit/Delete Message
bump

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big_guy1
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posted June 18, 2000 04:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for big_guy1   Click Here to Email big_guy1     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 5126477
i would say try and fina access to clomid..it is hugely important...

big-guy

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