posted June 17, 2000 11:38 PM         

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Please explain how it works, dont understand it, how is it better to burn fat then Xenadrine which im taking right now.

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posted June 17, 2000 11:41 PM            

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Xenadrine works about the same as E/C/A at burning fat.

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posted June 17, 2000 11:42 PM            

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e/c/a works like all other fat burners, increasing your heart rate and raising your body temperature, thus burning fat. I am not a big fan of fat burners, I do not know if it is better than Xenadrene or not, you will get 1,000 different opinions on that.

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posted June 17, 2000 11:43 PM            

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Xenadrine is E/C/A stack. It will say on the ingredients.

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posted June 17, 2000 11:43 PM            

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bigt, why are you not a big fan of fat burners? explain, please?

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posted June 17, 2000 11:47 PM            

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Hydroxycut, Thremo-cut, Xenadrine and all other fat burners are the same stack as E/C/A but its just the herb form. They're supposed to be in the same ratio.

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posted June 18, 2000 12:00 AM         

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ok then, wouldnt a eca stack be much cheaper then. And yeah, why dont you believe in them, god do they ever work. I weighed 285 after my surgery and 7 months latter at 240. That wouldnt be possible without the burners.

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posted June 18, 2000 12:04 AM            

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They are okay as fat burners, but you will see these nice twitches from it after awhile. Also, if you have any kind of heart condition (known or unknown) it puts more stress on it. I have done ripped fuel and Asprin before and that was about messed up. Couldn't ever sleep, always sweating, then them little nerve tremors came about. But they do work.

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posted June 18, 2000 12:09 AM            

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In my area E/C/A cost more to use than the fat burners. I've been hearing alot about the RIPPED FUEL and ASPRINE does it really work that well and how often do you take it in a day.

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posted June 18, 2000 12:41 AM            

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ephedrine increases your noradrenaline output, noradrenaline is responsable for heat production in the body via fat burning.
caffeine also has this effect when they are used together. they have a synergistic effect and your fat burning is increased. caffeine also makes the fat burning last longer. aspirin also extends the time in fat burning mode.

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posted June 18, 2000 12:50 AM            

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Aspirin "allegedly" extends the effectiveness period. I think it was one of those things someone came up with and hyped in a magazine article. So everyone else had to put it in their formulation to try and appear to be "as good as Hydroxycut" or whatever.
I still cannot see any credible medical evidence as to why an antiinflammitory (and fever reducer) would HELP something that is causing a man-made fever?
Some of the companies have dropped the "A" and sell just E/C now, but you wont hear much about it, since the major brands have spent a lot of money hyping their product and wouldnt want to say that they fucked up...

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posted June 18, 2000 01:15 AM            

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Heard methamphedrine does the same thing.

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posted June 18, 2000 01:53 AM            

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Most fat burners all included contain ephedrine and caffeine either in the herbal form or not. Few contain aspirin but hdroxycut xenadrine and ripped fuel all are basically the same thing

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posted June 18, 2000 01:59 AM            

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Just thought I'd explain a little more....this is just a personal thing, but I don't like anything that speeds up your heart. I am not saying fat burners don't work, I know they work wonders, but I just don't like to feel my heart race and get hot...I won't touch Clenbuterol, Cocaine, E, or anything like that either...It is just my feeling, and I'm not advising you to do as I do, but that's just why I don't like burners.

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posted June 18, 2000 02:01 AM            

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Also, I workout for football, and enjoy powerlifting and olympic lifting. I never had a weight problem, and if I want to get leaner all I have to do is cut out sugars, watch my carbs and do soem cardio...I have no interest in being ripped to the bone in order to get up on a stage, so for my needs, fat burners aren't necessary either.

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posted June 18, 2000 08:37 AM            

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The reason hwy they don't contain asprin...There is a larger number of people in the US that can't take asprin. If they added that to their product them there would be a decrease in sales.

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posted June 18, 2000 12:33 PM         

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Ephedrine and caffeine increase the release of norepinephrine from the nerve terminals, ephedrine also binds the beta receptors on cells. The beta agonism from the ephedrine and norepi increases cAMP levels in cells; in adipocytes this signals lipolysis (the release of fatty acids). Fatty acid levels increase and are utilized for fuel. The aspirin idea comes from the fact that prostaglandin E can reduce norepi release from nerve terminals, so reducing prostaglandin formation would theoretically inhibit this. This has not panned out in the research, as aspirin has only shown a significant effect in obese women, and there is no observable synergism as with E and C. The thermogenic products often add a prostaglandin inhibitor, in the form of White Willow, which contain salicin, a salicylic acid glycoside.

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posted June 18, 2000 01:29 PM            

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I'm with bigT, I cant stand fat burners like ECA either. Its the worst feeling but they do work. Just get yourself some Arimidex, Nolvadex, Proviron, Testosterone propionate, stanazolol, and GH, and lots of cardio. Best fat burning stack out there second to none, and gain some muscle while at it.

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posted June 18, 2000 04:49 PM         

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"Just get yourself some Arimidex, Nolvadex, Proviron, Testosterone propionate, stanazolol, and GH, and lots of cardio."

Damn, MILK!!! Most would have to get a second job or sell an organ to afford that.

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