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whodaman
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posted June 17, 2000 02:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for whodaman   Click Here to Email whodaman     Edit/Delete Message
I hear everyone talking about all the shit that pot heads can take to pass drug tests, like (urine-clear, and goldenseal) will all of that same shit work if they are testing for roids?

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1 Mistake
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posted June 17, 2000 08:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 1 Mistake     Edit/Delete Message
They have to specifically test you for juice. I get tested every week,but its a basic drug test-not roids.Use the golden seal tea from GNC and drink plenty of water

J

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Monster
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posted June 17, 2000 09:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Monster   Click Here to Email Monster     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 35077339
Tests for steroids are blood based. They test the ratio of testosterone to epitestosterone in most cases, not anything that is cast of in the urine...

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Blow
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posted June 17, 2000 10:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Blow     Edit/Delete Message
for the amount of water bb's drink, they shouldnt be able to pick shit up in your urin. Plus they dont test for AS like that, its a diferent test like the other dude said.

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cockdezl
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posted June 18, 2000 01:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cockdezl     Edit/Delete Message
First off, steroids are never looked for in occupational drug tests, only the major psychoactive drugs of abuse: THC, cocaine, benzo's, etc.

Next, the common health food store products are virtually useless (and I know I will get a ton of anecdotal responses against this claim). Goldenseal can actually be tested for by GC, and the other products tend to be diuretics, which can dilute out drugs to an extent, but drug tests are extremely sensitive. What people don't understand is the drug tests are not presence/absence tests, but amounts. An employer will pay for a drug panel screen that he or she deems suitable for the job type and it has a certain cut-off value for each drug. Obvioulsy a pilot will have a lower cut-off value than a janitor. A person can be a drug user and still pass the test if he/she has blood values lower than what the test is looking for, i.e. cut-off value is 50ng, and person passes with 49ng value. The person is still a user but he/she falls below the cut-off value. Also, some employers only look for certain drugs, say cocaine and THC. The emloyee may be a heavy benzo or heroin user but the employer did not pay to look for that so employee keeps his/her job.

This is the way it happens, my wife is a GC chemist for a major drug testing lab and I know basically the inside out of this and she has told me all the stupid shit people do to pass tests: ammonia, bleach, apple juice, orange juice, the blue water from the toilet, etc. Basically it boils down to don't fuck with stupid drugs.

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ClayWeinman
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posted June 18, 2000 02:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ClayWeinman   Click Here to Email ClayWeinman     Edit/Delete Message
Goldenseal is ineffective. You might want to try an additive of some sort. They mask everything, including prescription drugs. Clear Choice is the most trusted brand.

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studcj
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posted June 18, 2000 03:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for studcj   Click Here to Email studcj     Edit/Delete Message
The best thing to do is to stick with drugs that have a lower detection time like test prop. Stick with stuff that has low detection times, and do not use any steroids for atleast 6 weeks leading up to the test.

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whodaman
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posted June 18, 2000 05:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for whodaman   Click Here to Email whodaman     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks for the info guys....

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