posted June 17, 2000 09:14 PM            

how much gh are you taking per day? im doing 9 ius and i have also started to get pain in my lower back. i s too much to squat. also am getting pain in my joints but am up 20 lbs and am slightly leaner. im pretty happy about it. am thinking about adding deca to lube my joints.

-Pops

posted June 17, 2000 11:18 PM            

Side effects of GH?????

[This message has been edited by Steelheart (edited June 17, 2000).]

posted June 18, 2000 09:49 PM            

From everything I have read and people I know...You must be (should be) monitored by a doctor to use safely (as safe as you can be).

Not something to fool with.

Just my 2 cents

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posted June 18, 2000 11:14 PM            

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posted June 19, 2000 07:49 AM            

There is another type of diabetic called a non-insulin dependent diabetic or type II. These people have a working pancreas, so they can release insulin, but their muscle liver and fat doesn't respond to it. They are treated with a couple of drugs.

One type are called Sulfonylureas, or insulin releasers. These are drugs like Glyburide (brand names DIABETA, MICRONASE, GLYNASE) and others. They stimulate insulin release from the pancreas, so it's basically like an oral version of insulin. This means they carry all the risks of insulin too.

The other type has only drug Metformin (GLUCOPHAGE, other brand names).

This may not be a useful drug for bodybuilding. It has the advantage that it doesn't cause hypoglycemia, even in high doses. In a very few people it causes lactic acidosis, which is usually fatal (high doses increase the risk of lactic acidosis). On the whole it's probably safer than insulin. Metformin seems to work like insulin itself, but it may not be as anabolic.

what do ya guys think of this !! ??

posted June 19, 2000 07:55 AM            

it may not be as anabolic but ... ??

posted June 20, 2000 04:24 AM            

no, no, no. hgh is NOT a year round drug. i feel that hgh is pretty dangerous, but if used shot term (3 months, once a year) you could probably benefit. keep in mind that i have not been doing hgh that long but my buddy does 18 ius a day and he knows a lot about the drug. he has been on since august and he is experiencing acromegaly. his face, particularly his nose and eybrows are very pronounced. hgh also affects internal organs more so than skeletal muscles. my advice to anybody thinking abou doing it would be to do about 6 ius a day with LOTS of testosteroe and MANDATORY deca durabolin. unlike roids, hgh use can be painful. my joints ache, i get tired sometimes, my hands and feet swell, and i can no longer squat. i have 70 more days of use so i will probably lower the dose to 6 ius a day. also if you want to minimize sde effects, take it before bed. im starting to learn this by timing my doses. at this point in time, i feel hgh is all hype. but only time will tell.