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matty
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posted June 16, 2000 11:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for matty   Click Here to Email matty     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 74082278
just wondering what i should do about my dilema??? my cycle looks like this:
primo300mgs, eq300mgs, winny200mgs

the problem is i just ran out of winny this wk, so im just gonna stop the winstrol all together! here in wk 5.....

the other problem is that the eq is making me so damn hungry all the time that im eating way too much... im just starting wk 5 of just the primo 300mgs and the eq 300mgs and plan on continuing these two drugs till the 8th wk and then stop the eq and extended the primo for 2 more wks at 200mgs per wk, but this is supposed to be a cutting cycle and i think the hunger factor with the eq is making me bulk!! i cant see my abs at all and im getting more stocky than cut????

should i lower my dosages of the eq or what? should i just stop the eq and continue with the primo alone?

i fell like im just getting too big, and fat!!!!

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Roy Batty
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posted June 16, 2000 11:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Roy Batty   Click Here to Email Roy Batty     Edit/Delete Message
Hey bud,

Try getting some more winny. maybe add t3/clen to the mix? Damn matty what are you about 240 by now? I gotta catch up!

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aahthit
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posted June 16, 2000 11:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aahthit   Click Here to Email aahthit     Edit/Delete Message
This may sound like a crappy suggestion, but I would stay on the eq and control thyself. If you keep up the eq and maintain a strict diet, the gear will help you maintain your mass while you diet. There's a reason why the very word diet makes people cringe....it makes you miserible to not eat like a horse (no pun intended,..hehehe). How much cardio are you doing? What else are you doing? Good luck bruddah.

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DREXX
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posted June 16, 2000 12:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DREXX   Click Here to Email DREXX     Edit/Delete Message
I agree with aahthit. Keep the gear in and lower calories/increase cardio...

Take Clen/ECA to control appetite. I find that on Keto diets I feel fuller than on carb diet..

Besides that, tolerate it...

[This message has been edited by DREXX (edited June 16, 2000).]

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matty
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posted June 16, 2000 02:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for matty   Click Here to Email matty     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 74082278
so you guys dont think i should lower my eq dosages for the last 3-4wks of this cycle? cause its my 1st cycle and the juice is hittin hard! im gettin big bros! actually bigger than i wanted to get! also, there is no way to control the appetite effects from the eq!!! that shit is powerful, the hunger pains are extreme, and if you dont eat immeadiatly the rage kicks in!!!! if i dont eat, iam not the person to be around!! ijust think by lowering the dosage from 300 to 200mgs per wk the hunger will subside some???

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D007
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posted June 16, 2000 02:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for D007   Click Here to Email D007     Edit/Delete Message
that heightened red blood cell count is causing your brain to think that your blood/ glycogen is too low. clen, eca and ppa all can help by drawing glycogen out of the muscle and liver into the bloodstream.

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matty
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posted June 16, 2000 02:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for matty   Click Here to Email matty     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 74082278
hmmmmmm.....thats a good theory!

oh yeah im doing 45min cardio 4 days a wk????

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DREXX
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posted June 16, 2000 02:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DREXX   Click Here to Email DREXX     Edit/Delete Message
It's your cycle and ultimately you know what you want to attain. If you feel you are too big then go ahead and lower the dosage. I will never feel I am to big, ever

If you must eat then eat only protein. Have a can of tuna with nothing that will calm your taste buds...Seriously having lots of protein is best try not to eat carbs or fat a part from what you are supposed to.

I like to snack on 1% Cottage Cheese, tuna, protein shakes with water, meat with no carbs...

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matty
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posted June 16, 2000 02:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for matty   Click Here to Email matty     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 74082278
alls i know is that this supposed cutting cycle, is having a bulking cycle effect on me! which is not what i wanted, i look way thicker and way bigger, i cant see my abs any more and im constantly fighting water wt, by drinking 2gal of water per day!

so what gives?? maybe these dosages were too high for a 1st cycle
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SSMAN
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posted June 16, 2000 02:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SSMAN   Click Here to Email SSMAN     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 74456922
I wouldn't lower your EQ dose, just try some things to control your appetite. When cutting I eat a lot of egg whites as a source of protein. Eggs tend to make me feel very full for extended periods. Also try increasing your water intake. These usually help me.

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matty
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posted June 16, 2000 03:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for matty   Click Here to Email matty     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 74082278
thanks SSMAN, but im already drinking 2gal a day, and i cant stop pissing!!!

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wondertest
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posted June 16, 2000 03:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wondertest   Click Here to Email wondertest     Edit/Delete Message
Matty, I just e-mailed ya bro. I just read down some of the other posts. We're pretty close if the other posts are correct. I'm about 265 at 5'10, but right now my bf is high!!! Like 15%!!! Good job if this is your first cycle. Give me a holler if ya need anything.
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Curious
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posted June 16, 2000 03:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Curious     Edit/Delete Message
Wish I was hungry

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matty
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posted June 16, 2000 03:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for matty   Click Here to Email matty     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 74082278
say what Curious??? dude get some eq then, youll eat anything bro !!....anything!

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weez
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posted June 16, 2000 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for weez   Click Here to Email weez     Edit/Delete Message
Try some ECA. That shit curbs my appetite.

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Curious
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posted June 16, 2000 03:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Curious     Edit/Delete Message
Got any EQ to spare. I don't want to have to pay for it ya know. ha ha just kidding

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matty
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posted June 16, 2000 03:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for matty   Click Here to Email matty     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 74082278
all i know is that for a "bulking cycle" EQ is the ticket!

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wondertest
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posted June 16, 2000 03:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wondertest   Click Here to Email wondertest     Edit/Delete Message
Hey I e-mailed you again, do you have an ICQ#? If so lets exchange those.
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matty
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posted June 16, 2000 04:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for matty   Click Here to Email matty     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 74082278
dude all you have to do is click on the flower for an icq #.....

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ReliableDude
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posted June 16, 2000 06:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ReliableDude   Click Here to Email ReliableDude     Edit/Delete Message
hi matty

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