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Twisted_Steel
Pro Bodybuilder
(Total posts: 178)
posted June 15, 2000 08:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twisted_Steel     Edit/Delete Message
Gentlemen, sorry for breeching the AAS oritented discussion here on this particular forum. I only posted this here because the Chat and Conversation forum has become, well lets say less than informative.

This may not be a well recieved idea, nor would I pressume it to be ever considered, but based largely inpart to the subject matter "ideally covered", and the more frequent than not "assinine" redundency of posts perhaps this forum could benefit from an Adult Check system.

I am under the impression that such a measure would without question A. Legitamize the conversation amongst Elite Fitness members. B. Ensure more mature and intelligent debate amongst bodybuilders and athletes in the ideal range to be even considering anabolic supplementation.
C. A clearing house of intelligent experience debate to better educate the intermediate or advanced athlete.
D. As an NASM certified trainer I have been priviledged to continute my education pertaining to the field of exercise sciences. I came here in conjunction with my own research to better educate myself on an issue that an NASM certification materials and exams convieniently disclude

Im aware that Mr. Spellwinn designed this forum to be a dynamic free flowing environment designed to educate and enlighten person of any age group. Such intentions are noble, altruistic, and greatly appriciated.

I would just like to have a forum dedicated to a mature audience like our Moderators, like a great deal of our members.
I am only proposing this for the Anabolic Androgenic section. The chat and conversation forum in it of itself is a great idea, an unbiased means by which the user can experience some form of release, a catharsis if you will, by ranting on personal issues, or even posting the occassional foolishness.

Godbless

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havoc
Amateur Bodybuilder
(Total posts: 63)
posted June 15, 2000 09:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for havoc   Click Here to Email havoc     Edit/Delete Message
Twisted I agree somewhat but the chat and conversation forum is used for just that:Chat and Conversation, topics range from plain stupid to beyond ridiculous. Chat and Conversation serves its purpose, one being to get me through my workday by passing time at my boring ass job.

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dahmer
Pro Bodybuilder
(Total posts: 253)
posted June 15, 2000 09:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dahmer   Click Here to Email dahmer     Edit/Delete Message
I totally agree. I went onto the chat section for the first time yesterday and it was a joke!!! I would use the Adult Check system. It would dicourage any jokers that have nothing to offer.

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Twisted_Steel
Pro Bodybuilder
(Total posts: 178)
posted June 15, 2000 09:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twisted_Steel     Edit/Delete Message
Brain Storm: Adult Check is functional based on the input of Credit Card Information, correct? Mr. Spellwin has an indepth product line correct? I assume his income derives from these products, correct? The Adult Check for the anabolic section alone dissuades any jokers from coming in and fooling around, secondly offers us a convienient way of ordering products if we so chose, provides MR. Spellwin with a customer base for product consumption.

Just an Idea gentlemen, so you 21 or younger gentlemen dont barrage me with insults. If your offended

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DREXX
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted June 15, 2000 09:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DREXX   Click Here to Email DREXX     Edit/Delete Message
How much does the adult check systtem cost ?

If we are going have to pay why don't we pay a fee to the board and not some third party porn age checker???

I agree if we had to pay even a small fee to post there would be less people that would just create accounts to scam and spread all that testosterone.net / biotest SPAM...

I think that non paying members should still be able to read the forum

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Twisted_Steel
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted June 15, 2000 09:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twisted_Steel     Edit/Delete Message
Doh, in response to the last question. Adult Check is a completly free service to the user. Let me stress, Completly free.

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xtreemrush
Pro Bodybuilder
(Total posts: 114)
posted June 15, 2000 09:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for xtreemrush   Click Here to Email xtreemrush     Edit/Delete Message
regarding the credit card as a check system, that would negate the anynomity of the board and provide jonny law with names to the handles. Also, i was getting my first credit cards at 18.

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DREXX
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted June 15, 2000 09:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DREXX   Click Here to Email DREXX     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Twisted I didn't know that adult check was free. Sorry man! Cool Down!

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Fish
Pro Bodybuilder
(Total posts: 322)
posted June 15, 2000 09:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fish   Click Here to Email Fish     Edit/Delete Message
No offense, but I do not want to link my real name to my username.

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Dexter
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted June 15, 2000 09:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dexter   Click Here to Email Dexter     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 71953041
I didn't think Adult Check was free. Moreover, I thought it involved passing credit card details to establish an account.

For some of us in other countries, dealing with credit cards has been a major, major hassle. Essentially I don't use them.

Dexter

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Taner
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted June 15, 2000 09:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taner   Click Here to Email Taner     Edit/Delete Message
Just to let you know bros that the adult check is not free outside of USA. so the users from abroad have to pay for it, but that is not your problem eh?
T

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DREXX
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted June 15, 2000 09:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DREXX   Click Here to Email DREXX     Edit/Delete Message
One more thing. Yes I am 22 so I am not affected but what about the younger members. Of course we don't want to push 18yr olds into using drugs.

Fact is if they want roids they will use roids regardless. Why can't they come here and gain some knowledge and get sensible advice.

On top of that, the younger members will still have questions and most likely they will email the moderators for answers. I think moderators like E2 already have as much mail as they can handle. If we turn away under 21 members they will most likely email all the mods and vets with their questions.

There is so many people against this sub-culture we call bodybuilding we should atleast stick together like the brothers we are.

Just my 0.02$

[This message has been edited by DREXX (edited June 15, 2000).]

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Swollen
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted June 15, 2000 09:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Swollen   Click Here to Email Swollen     Edit/Delete Message
Bros, that is a little fucked up. I don't respond or post much on this forum because I have yet to experience the AS world. But, I do like to think I ask intelligent questions to better prepare myself for such an endeavor. I am only 17, so putting an Adult Check on would just be robbing those who just come for information and wisdom. I like this board, rare flaming and a curtiouse response can generaly be expected. This may not change your mind about your idea. But just think about it.

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Tulk311
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted June 15, 2000 09:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tulk311     Edit/Delete Message
I agree with swollen im only 19 and have decided to wait to use anabolics, but i am here every day checkin and reseaching. Dont try to deprive the younger guys who take it seriuosly, and also dont come off all high and mighty like its only the younger guys that goof of on the board. JUst because im 19 doesnt mean im not mature enough to handlethis board age has nothing to do with maturity. So cut the shit your not foolin anyone

tulk311

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2BIG4U
Amateur Bodybuilder
(Total posts: 60)
posted June 15, 2000 09:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 2BIG4U   Click Here to Email 2BIG4U     Edit/Delete Message
I think hat the Moderators ought to just delete the few people that we are having problems with....I mean this is only 1 of the few places that we can go to talk almost freely about the things we do....I wouldn't let a couple of FUCKIN'IDIOTS take that away from us!!!!!!

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IF YOUR HEART'S NOT INTO IT YOU'RE NOT INTO IT!!

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shocker005
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted June 15, 2000 10:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for shocker005   Click Here to Email shocker005     Edit/Delete Message
I think you should first discuss this with george himself. He might suggest you build your own board. I am 30 yrs young.You will not see my credit info on the net !

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GymRatSD
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted June 15, 2000 11:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GymRatSD   Click Here to Email GymRatSD     Edit/Delete Message
First, Adult Check (the actual company that provides the "service") is not free to anyone. The cost is $19.95 per year to sign up for their access to smut. Also, the age limit is supposed to be 18.

Second, I know of 15 year-olds that have credit cards. So much for that system of weeding out the youngsters.

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Texas Guns
Moderator
(Total posts: 476)
posted June 15, 2000 11:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Texas Guns   Click Here to Email Texas Guns     Edit/Delete Message
Twisted Steel,

Please email me regarding a different topic.

Mrs. TG

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always02
Pro Bodybuilder
(Total posts: 262)
posted June 15, 2000 01:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for always02   Click Here to Email always02     Edit/Delete Message
i diagree will the adult check, if it is because people post stupid things, well alot of people on here older than 21 have posted stupid things. i am over 21, but i started getting into elitefitness, and what not when i was 19, i have recieved great information, and 5 years later i am more knowledgeable, but still learning. i feel that just because your over 21 does not mean that you are mature. it is a free board, keep it that way, and let whoever wants to post here, post, if you don't like what they have to say, don't respond. just my opinion though

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Slopain
Pro Bodybuilder
(Total posts: 511)
posted June 15, 2000 02:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Slopain   Click Here to Email Slopain     Edit/Delete Message
Twisted,
Good point - it does get old - some is funny but only in moderation.

I think many people would NOT want to have to leave credit card #'s, way too much info for an illegal activity (not checking the boards) like AS.

Slopain

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elite hot topic
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted June 15, 2000 03:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for elite hot topic   Click Here to Email elite hot topic     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 24539228
Guys i think that there is no way out of it I mean any one can get there hands on a credit card. And if you charge a fee then this will not be Elite fitness. The greatness about this site is that everyone can give and get input. I became knowlageable from this sight and many more will come it just TAKES a few people longer but without this board no one will get educated.

Not a flame just my 2 cents

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gearseeker
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted June 15, 2000 04:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gearseeker   Click Here to Email gearseeker     Edit/Delete Message
Some of the older people post shit just as stupid as the younger ones.

Ive about given up on the board a few times but overall its a good forum. Just keep track of the names of the shitheads, then dont read the posts they put up.

Saves a lot of time and frustration.

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BigT
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted June 15, 2000 04:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BigT   Click Here to Email BigT     Edit/Delete Message
I'm 21 now, so it wouldn't bother me...but I'd say 18 and over though. You can legally get an Adult Check ID at age 18 for pornography sites. Also, I think some 18-19 year olds can learn more from this board and maybe hold off use of AAS until they're ready. Most of the dumb comments and posts seem like the 14-16 age range anyway. But I think some kind of method like this is a good idea.

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TxCollegeguy
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted June 15, 2000 04:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TxCollegeguy   Click Here to Email TxCollegeguy     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 48636409
Considering I have been here longer then some of the people that have posted here, and the fact that I'm only 20...I don't agree with this.

I am not for the 13-16 kids that come here and don't really have anything benificial to add here, nore do I think they should be here. Though they have a right to learn just as much as the next person. If they are not learning here then they are learning from some idiot somewhere else.

The last 2 months here have been a bit of a drag, but all and all most people here know their business and I wouldn't jepordize running people off just to keep a few immature people from being here either.


Keep Pumping

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gearface
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted June 15, 2000 04:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gearface   Click Here to Email gearface     Edit/Delete Message
bump that collegeguy

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eagledude
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posted June 15, 2000 05:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for eagledude   Click Here to Email eagledude     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 68446686
I am 15, i don't make stupid posts, I ask legitimate questions that no one I really know could answer, and you guys here have helped me out alot. I answer a question only when I know that the answer I am giving is correct, may it be through research, expierience, or simple knowledge(ie. bodybuilding stunts growth at a young at cuase you can't grow 2 ways at once). I can't stand stupid posts either such as little kids wondering how many calories in a day they should have, that makes me mad when they do that and then people on here don't want any teens on here including me, I don't think my posts are bad, I don't take up your time with stupid posts and questions. So please think about what you are saying, there are teens out there who wanna do weight lifting and bodybuilding, this may be the only place they know where to go to get the info, so don't make an age check,
thanx
Eagle

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Jim Layhoe
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posted June 15, 2000 05:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jim Layhoe   Click Here to Email Jim Layhoe     Edit/Delete Message
I don't feel that this is an age issue.
However some people due need to grow up.

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Krazy Kommie
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted June 15, 2000 06:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Krazy Kommie   Click Here to Email Krazy Kommie     Edit/Delete Message
Me dick
stop
meters1.5
stop
small cpaitalist
stop

KK

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mack
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted June 15, 2000 07:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mack     Edit/Delete Message
I am only 19 and I think the 21 year old idea is ridiculous. I have seriously considered using A.S., but at the last minute I decided to hold off for a couple reasons. I am sure that I have more knowledge then some of the member who are over 21, and this board is about helping people make safe and samrt decisions. There are many members like me who are under 21 that want to wait until the do the juice, but we should still be able to learn about them like everyone else so when the time comes in a a couple years we can be more educated so we will make safer and smarter decisions.

Thanks

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bollocks
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted June 15, 2000 08:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bollocks   Click Here to Email bollocks     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 28672700
if i had to go thru that shit to get on, i would not have bothered

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Ubermass
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted June 15, 2000 08:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ubermass   Click Here to Email Ubermass     Edit/Delete Message
if you dont like what someone is saying or asking then dont read it it's a simple as that

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cantgetlayed
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted June 15, 2000 09:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cantgetlayed   Click Here to Email cantgetlayed     Edit/Delete Message
Boys,
Bad idea, I'm only 18. Though I know that my body has not reached it's genetic peak, and therefore is not ready for steroids, I think it's very important for me to be able to learn as much as I can now, as to utilize the knowledge gained later. I believe a better solution to the assinine posts is common sense. You can't become a member until you pass a test!!!!! Supply the informative pages from the NEWBIE post, and make a test out of the info on there. If you get a good grade your in, it's that simple. Besides, if you don't let the kids learn about steroids, they won't use them, they'll abuse them. Thankyou

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Romeo
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted June 15, 2000 09:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Romeo   Click Here to Email Romeo     Edit/Delete Message
thats all in good steel but what about a person such asa myself im sure there are others on the board who are under 21 and whom contribute to the board in a positive manner ...it would suck that we couldnt be here ...because i have learnd so much from this board i check the board everyday...that is unfair and fucked up

this is not a flame just an opinion


peace romeo

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tb huge
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted June 15, 2000 09:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tb huge   Click Here to Email tb huge     Edit/Delete Message
Everyone of us that has used gear is by the justice system a criminal here in the USA. It does not matter what your age is, granted yes there are some immature people out there, but you have to take the good with the bad. No matter where you go you will always find an idiot. I say we all just stick together as brothers and thank the Iron Gods for everything they have given us. I don't post very many questions but I do reply and I check all the posts at least once a day sometimes more. I have learned a lot from this board. Yes I am 21 but I would not be for giving my credit card information out on the net. It is just one of those things I am not comfortable with doing. Thats all I have to say about that.........

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ikedaddy77
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted June 16, 2000 01:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ikedaddy77   Click Here to Email ikedaddy77     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 55298907
i think it is a good idea, but i also think that we would lose some good bros if we cut everyone under 21. i have been a memeber of this board for a couple of years now and i am only 20. i always do my best to help people and people do the same for me. maybe we should just make the board 18 and over instead of 21 and over. just a suggestion.

ike

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TheBear
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted June 16, 2000 01:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TheBear   Click Here to Email TheBear     Edit/Delete Message
Geez people doing illegal substances talking about illegal concepts are voting to "weed" out certain people cuz THEY dont think some are mature enough to handle the material? Hmmm...It just sounds like some congressmen trying to silence the minority. Seriously though, there are much better ways to solve this guys.

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MakingGains
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted June 16, 2000 08:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MakingGains   Click Here to Email MakingGains     Edit/Delete Message
I don't mind the check, but for the younger bro's out there. Please don't post dumb question. Do your research first then come back with a better question for us to answer.
Peace.

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Twisted_Steel
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posted June 16, 2000 09:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twisted_Steel     Edit/Delete Message
Some great points are being made by some of you. By no means did I want to step on the toes of some of you members 21 and younger who do participate well.
With respect to law enforcement, I think it wise to continue the debate on AS and to educate, no laws will ever be broken as long as your cause remains largely "theoretical".
Any of the other members that blatantly admit the use of any illicit product, through this forum with its limited anonimity or in your personal lives assumes a measure of uneeded risk. Gotta take that into consideration whenever you post.
Godbless

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NCLifter
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted June 16, 2000 09:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NCLifter   Click Here to Email NCLifter     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 62489407

I dont think Adult Check would be the right thing to do. This board educates potential steroid users. Like someone else said, once someone decides to take steroids, they are going to take them regardless. I know too many people who have taken whatever they could get their hands on without doing any research. By educating people, there will not be as many steroid "horror stories" that have caused them to get the reputation they currently have.

NC

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