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JonBlaze
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posted June 15, 2000 08:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JonBlaze     Edit/Delete Message
I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions as to what steroid would be best for a basketball player. I am looking to get stronger, ripped, and bigger, but not huge mass. To much mass will hurt my flexibility. Any suggestions?

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Twisted_Steel
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posted June 15, 2000 08:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twisted_Steel     Edit/Delete Message
gee, this is a unique well researched question. Never seen a question like this here on Elite Fitness. I really think this site should have an Adult Check pass. No one under 21. These post are starting to wear thin

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havoc
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posted June 15, 2000 08:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for havoc   Click Here to Email havoc     Edit/Delete Message
J-Blaze, actually mass will only help you with your basketball career. I played my senior year in college at 220lbs around 4% bodyfat, also I am only 5'9 running the point. Muscle Mass doesnt decrease flexibility, it actually increases flexibility. Being muscle bound is possible but it is actually a stereotype, kind of like "white men cant jump" but since I also have a 41 inch vert. I guess that shit isnt true either. As far as steroids for basketball, hopefully you wont go that route.

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supraman
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posted June 15, 2000 08:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for supraman     Edit/Delete Message
Twisted is right, but anyway....Winstrol, Primo, Anavar, etc.......

The only way you are going to learn anything about something you're intrested in is to: research research research research

I see this board as a supplement to my AS knowledge as AS are a supplemnet to my workouts....you have to have a foundation, but when you need that "little extra" its there for YA!

Good luck man and Welcome!

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JonBlaze
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posted June 15, 2000 08:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JonBlaze     Edit/Delete Message
Twisted_Steel if do not have a good answer then do not reply. For your information I am a second team college all-american, but drastically need to increase draft status. I have researched well, but cannot come to conclusion, was seeking help from people that truly know and use gear.
Havoc, any suggestions though on steroid.

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havoc
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posted June 15, 2000 08:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for havoc   Click Here to Email havoc     Edit/Delete Message
Didnt want to suggest this but F**K it. Try a light, clean beginner cycle of PRIMO and DECA. If diet and training is consistent and correct you should gain a solid 10lbs at the least. But I still dont think you should do it.

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JonBlaze
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posted June 15, 2000 09:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JonBlaze     Edit/Delete Message
Why do you think that I should not do it, the top six players in the country last year used the juice, including that Cincinatti Bearcat.

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havoc
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posted June 15, 2000 09:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for havoc   Click Here to Email havoc     Edit/Delete Message
OK so if Kenyon Martin jumped off the Golden Gate bridge you would follow. Hey its your choice, if you have pro aspirations then maybe it would help. I played overseas in Spain in Pamesa Valencia and saw two good friends go downhill because of the juice. If you do it make an attempt to do it once, dont let it get you hooked. I have never tried gear yet but I am a director of a corporate gym and see day in and day out what gear can do to a person, positive and negative. Mostly negative.

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BigWh1tey
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posted June 15, 2000 10:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BigWh1tey   Click Here to Email BigWh1tey     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 75900860
ive heard "bouncabolin " is the shit for basketball players , especially whem stacked with "Nothingbutnetalene" . ( uh J/K)
I would gladly give George my credit card number.

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Mr. T
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posted June 15, 2000 10:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mr. T     Edit/Delete Message
Any type of testosterone preferably Sustenon 250 at 500mgs for 8 weeks, using clomid every other day and 3 weeks post cycle to keep your nuts large and in charge. You wont get fat because of all the running your doing anyway.
Because of all the cardio invoved in b- ball practice, you wont gain like a bodybuilder but you can expect 10 to 15lbs of ripped muscle. Dont use Deca, everyone is getting caught for that now. It stays in your system too long. Good luck-

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JonBlaze
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posted June 15, 2000 11:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JonBlaze     Edit/Delete Message
Havoc and MrT

Appreciate Advice, Maybe someday I will tell you who I am

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Thick dog
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posted June 15, 2000 11:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Thick dog     Edit/Delete Message
One word of advice if you take something like test or dbol that will cause water retention: Make sure you continue to do sprints and plyometrics while on the juice, otherwise, the excess water can actually slow you down, even though you are getting considerably stronger.

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roobie
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posted June 15, 2000 11:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for roobie   Click Here to Email roobie     Edit/Delete Message
I live in T.O and found it strange that over the course of 1 off-season a skinny player like Tracy McGrady came back with a lot more muscle. Is AS use widespread in the NBA.
just curious.

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roadruler
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posted June 15, 2000 11:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for roadruler   Click Here to Email roadruler     Edit/Delete Message
Can't help you i don't play b.ball for a team but i'll bump it. I thought it was a good question. Why do people always have to comment, I agree with you blaze.....if you don't have anything good to say than don't say it!
I didn't know that player form cincinatti juiced. He's going to be the first pick in the draft this year. Go nets!!! hehehehe

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JonBlaze
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posted June 15, 2000 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JonBlaze     Edit/Delete Message
thickdog, roobie, roadruler:

Thanks for the comments and advice appreciate it. Actually roobie, more NBA players than you think have used gear before. Most do it during their latter college years.

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Ubermass
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posted June 15, 2000 12:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ubermass   Click Here to Email Ubermass     Edit/Delete Message
if you think you may be drug tested dont use deca

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msg
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posted June 15, 2000 12:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for msg   Click Here to Email msg     Edit/Delete Message
damn HAVOC. a 41" verticle! 4% bf! you have the bf% of a pro bodyduilder and a vert leap better than Jordan in his prime. Good Job!
peace,

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scott825
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posted June 15, 2000 01:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for scott825   Click Here to Email scott825     Edit/Delete Message
I would say a eq or a test/winny cycle.

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havoc
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posted June 15, 2000 01:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for havoc   Click Here to Email havoc     Edit/Delete Message
MSG, that was two years ago, my bf now is around 8% and I weigh around 240. Still got the vertical. I appreciate the compliment, worked hard as F**K to attain my goals.

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msg
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posted June 15, 2000 01:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for msg   Click Here to Email msg     Edit/Delete Message
hey bro - 8% and 240 AND a 41" vert ain't bad AT ALL! and you are welcome. you could prob be a damn fullback in the nfl if the nba does not work out with athleticism like that.
good luck,
peace

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GROWTH
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posted June 15, 2000 03:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GROWTH   Click Here to Email GROWTH     Edit/Delete Message
dude, go for it, take sus250 for 1cc a week for 10 weeks along with some winny and you'll be fine.

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MattTheSkywalker
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posted June 15, 2000 04:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MattTheSkywalker   Click Here to Email MattTheSkywalker     Edit/Delete Message
Blaze,

I played in the Atlantic 10. 3rd team all conference senior year. I know where you're coming from.

Havoc, I'm calling you out: What conference did you play in? D-1 or small school? I'm calling you out because I've never ever ever seen a 5' 9" 220 pound point guard. I've been around the game a long time and I've never seen that at the Division 1 level. So before I tell you you're full of shit, I am giving you a chance to defend yourself.

MSG: Jordan's vertical at the Olympic trials was 47 inches. 41 is commonplace among NBA 2-guards.

Blaze: email me. I have a few suggestions for you.

Matt

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msg
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posted June 15, 2000 04:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for msg   Click Here to Email msg     Edit/Delete Message
damn matt. i was not aware of that. i read it was like 36" when he was in college. guess i read wrong or he got even better at hops. still - 41"! that is pretty damn good if you ask me.
peace
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Mr. T
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posted June 15, 2000 04:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mr. T     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah stocky guys are notoriously bad jumpers. Spud was awesome but his legs were like tree trunks and he had a small upper body. 4% bodyfat among basketball players is pretty normal. Im telling you guys, it does not matter what he takes with all that cardio that you do in b- ball practice. Their is no way he will gain water weight or fat, unless Blaze is in the offseason smoking fat ones. Which is were I assume you got the name JonBlaze aka Methodman.

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Marauder
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posted June 15, 2000 05:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marauder   Click Here to Email Marauder     Edit/Delete Message
Jon Blaze, I believe oral winstrol would probably be the best for you, being a college athlete, you can get tested of course...winstrol tabs have about a 3 week clearance time, one of the quickest clearers besides test suspension and a couple of others....great strength and speed gains...Good luck bro! marauder out.

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TwinGATs
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posted June 15, 2000 05:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TwinGATs   Click Here to Email TwinGATs     Edit/Delete Message
Bro just do some test 500-600 mg/wk for 6-8 weeks.....just keep your body down or you will get to heavy....I play ball and I juice...I helps alot, just when I get to heavy It fucks up my vert....

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runner
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posted June 15, 2000 06:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for runner   Click Here to Email runner     Edit/Delete Message
yo, skywalker, when'd you play in the A-10?

i'm a big URI fan.

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ItalianSweetness
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posted June 15, 2000 06:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ItalianSweetness     Edit/Delete Message
Go with the winstrol for explosiveness, nasty cuts (in your muscles and on the court!) It will leave your sytem fast and youll pack on mass just from that. ----add the winstrol with a testosterone like sus250 or t200.This will bring lasting mass gains for the most part if u use clomid eod and at the end of the cycle. I am a ballplayer to. If u are doing sprints and cardio don't worry about any water retention. You can put on a good 20lbs. on the cycle and keep almost all of it if u do it right. peace.

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ItalianSweetness
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posted June 15, 2000 06:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ItalianSweetness     Edit/Delete Message
Decca would would obviously be one of the best steroids for basketball but it stays in the sytem one year after use....no good.

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flossin1
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posted June 15, 2000 07:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for flossin1     Edit/Delete Message
Pearsonaly iI would go with a good old fashion deca winny primo stack.

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MattTheSkywalker
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posted June 15, 2000 08:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MattTheSkywalker   Click Here to Email MattTheSkywalker     Edit/Delete Message
Mr T,

I rarely do this, but hre we go:

YOU ARE WRONG. Basketball players can gain from AS despite all the cardio. I've done it. I know two current NBA players who have used AS.

Blaze email me I can help.

Havoc, haven't heard from you bro.....

Matt

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Eramthgin
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posted June 15, 2000 08:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eramthgin   Click Here to Email Eramthgin     Edit/Delete Message
Shoot blaze what a simple question. Take one of each everyother day. Don't dribble before you shoot and never never pass the dart.

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REF-E-MB
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posted June 15, 2000 11:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for REF-E-MB     Edit/Delete Message
JonBlaze-
I am also a current basketball player. My high school season ended and I had been advised that I will not be growing anymore and I am going to play for a Conference USA school and needed AS. I was about 6'2 and 167 lbs. After the season ended in March I began hitting the weights extremely hard and took one cycle of reforvit-b followed by a cycle of Equipoise. I am currently 6'2 and 184 lbs. My upper and lower body are considerably stronger and no one takes the ball from me, when I go up, I score. I worked on my shot everyday so I wouldn't lose it and worked with strength shoes in conjunction with my leg workouts, I actually gained 4" to my vertical and am still improving. If you take this cycle and keep working hard with your normal basketball routine you will be incredibly happy with your results. GOOD LUCK BRO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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bigmofo
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posted June 15, 2000 11:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bigmofo   Click Here to Email bigmofo     Edit/Delete Message
I REALLY THINK YOU SHOULD TRY SOME DUNKABOLIN.OR MAYBE SOME REBOUNDABOL, AH SHIT I CRACK MYSELF UP.
PEACE,OUT

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havoc
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posted June 16, 2000 12:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for havoc   Click Here to Email havoc     Edit/Delete Message
Matt the Skywalker, I played at a juco in Charlotte , NC then transfered to a D2 school in NC. Originally from Houston. Then I had the pleasure of playing in Spain at Pamesa Valencia, made some good cash and then bounced. You can attempt to call me out but every word is true except my vert is just a little better now. Just cause you have played college ball doesnt mean you should know every player there is. You are correct though , I didnt run into any point even remotely close to my size. Also my athleticism is through the roof, God just blessed me I guess.

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ikedaddy77
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posted June 16, 2000 12:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ikedaddy77   Click Here to Email ikedaddy77     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 55298907
Hey Blaze if you just want to add some strength and size without hurting your game I would go with a stack of winny tabs and EQ. 100mg of EQ EOD. that will rip you up but you'll also gain strenth and speed which will help with your leaping ability and also your speed and quickness. i play ball alot and i juice. trust me as long as you don't get caught you'll be fine.

ike

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JonBlaze
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posted June 16, 2000 10:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JonBlaze     Edit/Delete Message
All the advice is appreciated bros, keep it comin.

What do you guys think about winstrol stacked with sten. The sten is for the aggressive explosive nature and the winstrol for strength. Or what will d-bol stacked with sten do for me?

Blaze

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MattTheSkywalker
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posted June 16, 2000 05:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MattTheSkywalker   Click Here to Email MattTheSkywalker     Edit/Delete Message
Havoc,

Cool. My brother plays in France now and a few of my college teammates are playing overseas. You're a big point guard.

I don't know every ballplayer that ever lived - true - but among me and my two brothers we know more than a few.

I played the "2" at 6-3, 205. I can jump a little too.

BLAZE: Winny and sten is a pretty good deal. Also - and this may seem obvious - try to work in some extra sprints as part of your conditioning - 200meters or so. Sprints (as they are short term intesne exercises - actually stimulate increased terst production - which in addition to the AS shoud get you exactly what you are looking for.

Matt

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