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beta
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted June 14, 2000 06:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for beta   Click Here to Email beta     Edit/Delete Message
Ok this is my first time with a cycle and no im not going to over load like some would say to do.

week deca primo
1 200mg 50mg
2 200mg 50mg
3 250mg 100mg
4 250mg 150mg
5 250mg 150mg
6 200mg 100mg
7 200mg 100mg
8 150mg 50mg


Ok I know this is a week ass cycle but I really dont want any sides. anyways im open for options this is not my perment cycle if you have a better one please tell me.
I also have a ??? will I be able to keep my bf low during my cycle I am going to take celn after the cycle. and how much would one expect to gain on this type of a cycle.(I think I need to add about 150mgs of deca on 4 of those weeks).

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posted June 14, 2000 06:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for elite hot topic   Click Here to Email elite hot topic     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 24539228
week 2-6 add enough deca to get to about 400mg at least.
The sides will be low deca does not have too many sides.

About the fat % I dont know I would go for a bulk cycle then a cut up cycle it is hard to kill 2 birds with 1 stone.
BUT if this is the cycle you want up the Deca like i said, remember to take 50mg clomid every other day.
then continue after the cycle for 2 weeks.

If you are gyno prone get some Nolvadex.

1 more thought eat a lot of protein double your bodys weight in grams.

You could sub some sus but that is a diffrent story we wont get into that

Ok let us know about your progress.
yours in true

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beta
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posted June 14, 2000 07:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for beta   Click Here to Email beta     Edit/Delete Message
Ok I was thinking of getting some sust but i dont want the androgenic like acne or gyno
anyways how much do you think i will gain off a cycle like this anyways?? i want to gain at least 15lbs , but im starting to wonder if this sounds more like a cutting cycle??

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Italianboy
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posted June 14, 2000 07:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Italianboy   Click Here to Email Italianboy     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 75635305
It's good.I started with less than you(50mg deca and 100mg win)and obtained great results.Eat a lot of protein!!!!

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posted June 14, 2000 07:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for beta   Click Here to Email beta     Edit/Delete Message
Good IB could you give some details im looking to gain 15-20 and everybody says i cant , and how was your acne ?? and your bf
?? any other info would be great
thanks to people how replyed

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Slopain
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posted June 14, 2000 07:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Slopain   Click Here to Email Slopain     Edit/Delete Message
Beta at least go 400mg of deca all the way through. Please Bump up the Primo too better yet through it out Deca and Winny work very well together (winny helps fight the proest effects from deca).

I did a cycle similiar to this for my first, now I think it was a mistake, I would definently go big the first time had I the chance to do it over.

Slopain

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posted June 14, 2000 07:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for beta   Click Here to Email beta     Edit/Delete Message
OK SLO what if i stacked sust and deca ??
the problem i have is that i dont want any acne and i dont want my face to get fat .
could you give you wright a cycle useing sust
and deca?? what do you mean fight the proest effect of deca ?? i dident think it had any

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AY
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posted June 14, 2000 07:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AY   Click Here to Email AY     Edit/Delete Message
I think he's referring the progesterone that's caused by deca.

AY

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Slopain
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posted June 14, 2000 07:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Slopain   Click Here to Email Slopain     Edit/Delete Message
No flame but need to do a bit more research on the drugs you will be sticking in your arse.

Deca does not cause estrogen but progesterone (really just as bad) and winny combats that.
If you threw in some sus at 500 a week I dont think you sides would be much different at all.
Throwing nolvadex/clomid in the cycle I think will ensure a minimal amount of water weight. If I was you I would do:
deca/sus/winny
400 /500/400
For like 14 weeks. End the sus/deca at week 12 and continue winny for the next 2 weeks to cut up a bit and harden.

The acne depends on you, did you have alot during puberty? if so you really might get some on any cycle. If you didn't have any theres a good chance you wont get too much at all. You can prevent it by going to tanning beds, washing/showering religiously, and using good products.

Slopain

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beta
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posted June 14, 2000 08:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for beta   Click Here to Email beta     Edit/Delete Message
I agree with the "I need more info on the drugs " and im trying as fast as I can.
Ok 14 weeks is a little to much for me right now but what if I did an 8-10 cycle and what about the clen??

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posted June 14, 2000 08:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for beta   Click Here to Email beta     Edit/Delete Message
One more thing dont i need t tapper a bit or is that what the winny for ?? dont i need more of a down up down cycle , in terms of dosage??

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Slopain
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posted June 14, 2000 08:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Slopain   Click Here to Email Slopain     Edit/Delete Message
What are your stats?

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oubeta
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posted June 14, 2000 08:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for oubeta   Click Here to Email oubeta     Edit/Delete Message
~kai~2397

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The_Blond_Myth
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posted June 14, 2000 08:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for The_Blond_Myth   Click Here to Email The_Blond_Myth     Edit/Delete Message
Why are u jumping around with the dosages, go with 400mg of deca/week for 10 weeks. Don't taper and u shouldnt need any antiestrogens. The primo that u are including is so low in dosage it would be a waste, no need to stack just go with deca, u should be safe from hairloss and high bp. U will get descent gains off just deca, if it is your first cycle, and if your deca is made by brovel, make sure to up the dose a little to compensate for the underdosing that they do with their gear.

LP

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posted June 14, 2000 08:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for elite hot topic   Click Here to Email elite hot topic     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 24539228
I was thinking to my self that you shoud be on a sus and deca cycle b ut someone beat me to it
but i would go on a 8 week cycle
week deca sus
1 400 500
2 400 500
3 400 500
4 400 750
5 400 750
6 400 750
7 250 500
8 250 500

You sont need to peeramid but i would taper down a bit
Clomid e/o/d

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posted June 15, 2000 01:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for beta   Click Here to Email beta     Edit/Delete Message
OK thats what i was thinkig to i mean the sus and deca what should i cut with winny or clen ?? and from the sus will i need any nolvadex ?? shit i feel stupid but what do you mean by
e/o/d ??

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slabcat
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posted June 17, 2000 03:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for slabcat   Click Here to Email slabcat     Edit/Delete Message
Use the clen after your cycle and if your going to use Sus then it would be safe to have nolv on hand just in case. eod means every other day.
good luck!

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Maverik
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posted June 18, 2000 02:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Maverik   Click Here to Email Maverik     Edit/Delete Message
Every Other Day!

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Lqdmscle
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posted June 18, 2000 07:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lqdmscle   Click Here to Email Lqdmscle     Edit/Delete Message
I think you should add some test to your original cycle. Say, 100-200mg per week.

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