posted June 13, 2000 01:06 PM         

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My fellow brothers...and sisters :-)

Lately I am getting these unbearable headaches. I am not prone to this nor am I a migrain patient.

Of the possibe things it could be: EQ, Win, Test, Primo, ECA, and a bunch of other stuff I won't bother you with.

Anyone else get this while on gear?

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posted June 13, 2000 01:43 PM            

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hey bro, i read a post that primo, causes headaches. My uncle's on some,and he gets them all the time. I dont' know how to fix it though. Good luck!!

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posted June 13, 2000 01:53 PM            

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yeah bro ! it the primo and maybe the eq! im taking both and i get em all the time.... sometimes there not even like a headache though more like just head sensations and head tingles ??????

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posted June 13, 2000 01:58 PM         

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I don't think its the primo because I just took my first shot of that yesterday. It started happening around the same time as I started the winnie and test. suspension. ..thanks for the tips though!

They come and go...starts at the back of my neck and works it way to my head. I'm also taking a new ECA (Xenadrine) that I have never taken before so maybe that???..who f'in knows...but, damn, my head hurts!

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posted June 13, 2000 02:07 PM            

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Hey if it starts at the back of the neck.
I would say it is somthing in your neck.
I have had that before but not often.
Massage from a therapist may help a little.
Your neck is probably one big knot from
all the intense workouts.

I hope this helped a little.
Good luck.

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posted June 13, 2000 02:07 PM            

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it can be the ECA, b/c if i take ripfuel, or hydroxy cut, i get them bad, if i take the recomended doses. So i just take half of what they recomend, and i'm fine.

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posted June 13, 2000 04:50 PM            

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bsjohnsons could be right! but dont think its still not the primo just cause you just started! thats when i was getting them , almost instantanously, upon 1st injection of primo, and usally only on injection days of winny primo, and eq ???????

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posted June 13, 2000 04:54 PM         

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I get them when I take dbol. The first five weeks of my current cycle I was popping ibufrofin every 2-3 hours they were so bad. As soon as I finished my dbol, I haven't had one in 2 weeks. Same thing happended last cycle. I think certain chemicals just effect certain people in different ways. It fucking sucks.

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posted June 13, 2000 04:54 PM         

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I get them when I take dbol. The first five weeks of my current cycle I was popping ibufrofin every 2-3 hours they were so bad. As soon as I finished my dbol, I haven't had one in 2 weeks. Same thing happended last cycle. I think certain chemicals just effect certain people in different ways. It fucking sucks.

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posted June 13, 2000 04:58 PM            

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Maybe you strained something in your neck training and you didn't relize it till now, that will definitely give you a headache. I found that sometimes if I had a headache after work taking ECA actually helped. But thats just me.

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posted June 13, 2000 05:51 PM            

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i get the same intense pain behind the neck. it gets so bad i get nauseated. nausea with headaches are called migraines. i get these extreme headaches from the clomid though.

-Pops

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posted June 13, 2000 06:03 PM            

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Hey Big Poppa, Check some things for me. When you start to get the migraines check you blood pressure and then your pulse against your normal resting bp/pulse. Also, look and see if there is any pattern of food eaten that might trigger you problems. You'd be suprised the amount of people that get on gear and supress their immune system and their food allergies show up. Also, do you have any blurry vision with the head aches? Most likely, if you've raised you body wt considerably in the past few weeks off of test then your a water balloon. Water retention of any type can drive your bp up and cause this. It is possible that mild diuretics and increasing you fluid intake could correct this. Worth a try....

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posted June 13, 2000 06:22 PM            

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Some people say that ECA causes headaches. But it's hard to tell with what your taking.

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posted June 13, 2000 06:23 PM         

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thanks everyone...

I am getting my blood pressure tested in the morning and we'll see...don't think that's what it is because I just tested it a few days ago and it was okay. I just got some prescription ibuprofen so I'm taking that!...it comes and goes...frickin' pain in the ass cause it hurts like a mo' fo'!!!!

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posted June 14, 2000 10:36 AM         

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Okay...got my blood pressure measured and here is what it is:

100/68 100=systolic 68=diastolic

I used one of those self arm machines available at CVS pharmacys. My pulse rate is 102 which I know is somewhat high but considering I am on ECA, I expected that. Any ideas or thoughts on these results????

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posted June 14, 2000 11:46 AM            

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ECA gives me headaches......especially for the few days after I stop.

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posted June 14, 2000 11:50 AM            

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ECA is a definate leading contender for the HA. Although I know a couple powerlifting buddies that get bad HA after they've been on Test. Susp. for a week or so...

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posted June 14, 2000 09:10 PM         

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bump this shit

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posted June 14, 2000 10:01 PM            

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try cutting out all ephedrine out for a week,I get the worst headaches from it.Its like I get dizzy and pale and start sweating alot.I think ephedrine may predispose people to low-blood sugar, definitely something you want to avoid.manana....

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posted June 15, 2000 08:21 AM         

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Its the caffeine in the ECA .Caffeine causes blood vessel constriction ,which is useful in migraine headache .But when the effect of caffeine wears off ,you get the rebound vessel dilation ,which makes you brain filled with blood and causes a severe headache .what you can do is to stop the ECA ,or keep taking the ECA regularly to prevent the rebound ,but I would suggest to stop it .

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posted June 15, 2000 12:36 PM         

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Bigpappa... I don't know where you live but here in Ohio it is definitly allergy season.
Don't overlook the possibility of allergies even if you have never suffererd before. I have been getting terrible headaches also, and I am Natural (thus far). I now have a prescription for Clariton it helps a great deal. PS.. anyone know the impact of taking Clariton if on a cycle?? Good Luck Pappa headaches suck!

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posted June 15, 2000 12:54 PM            

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I asked the question about claritin a while back and every seemed to agree that it would have no effect so i wouldnt worry about it..

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posted June 15, 2000 07:53 PM            

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It's been my experience that E/C/A will give you some wicked MF headaches. I never had a problem with them until I tried Hydroxycut at 4 pills 3x day.

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posted June 15, 2000 08:29 PM            

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I agree with hk 1234, good post bro.

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