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Rock_Man
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posted June 12, 2000 01:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rock_Man   Click Here to Email Rock_Man     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 8696614
I was checking out a site for Androstenedione and the caps are at 250mgs each. The highest I've seen them yet.

It's been said that to get any benefit from androstenedione you have to take over 300mgs a day. So if I took 2 caps of this stuff that's 500mgs.

It has steroid compounds so I would most definately do an anti-estrogen with it like clomid or Chrysin.

Ya think it would work? What about a higher dosage of andro like say...750mgs a day?

Really curious....

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Rock_Man
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posted June 12, 2000 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rock_Man   Click Here to Email Rock_Man     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 8696614
Bump... Hello? Anyone?...hehe

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gearface
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted June 12, 2000 02:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gearface   Click Here to Email gearface     Edit/Delete Message
I wonder the same thing so I'll bump this one for ya.

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Rock_Man
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posted June 12, 2000 06:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rock_Man   Click Here to Email Rock_Man     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 8696614
Hello? Any moderators know?
I'm a bit curious to the reason why there is no discussion here on this.

Now if this were classified as an "illegal substance" (which may happen) for bodybuilders, everyone would be asking the same question and knocking themselves over to get it.

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Ice Man
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posted June 12, 2000 08:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ice Man   Click Here to Email Ice Man     Edit/Delete Message
Look on Mass Quantities web site at the Andro cycle George put together. I tried the bulking portion of it and did get some gains, but I have to tell you that I have gotten more gains for less money on milder dosages of juice.

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Zeke_B
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted June 12, 2000 11:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Zeke_B   Click Here to Email Zeke_B     Edit/Delete Message
I've done Pinnacle Poppers a couple of times.
They are sublingual cyclodextrin encased
prohormone blends (mostly 4-androstenediol)
supposedly much safer than orals. Most
people use 1/4 the dosage compared to orals
I think. ie 150mg sublingual = 600mg oral.
Price is pretty darn good too compared to
most orals.

Pop one in your mouth and 45 minutes later
you will notice strength increases. I doubt
you will get any significant permanent gains
though. I didn't gain more than a couple of
pounds. I probably would have gained that
anyway. I won't ever take prohormones
again because the effects just aren't that
dramatic. I don't know how Vince Taylor got
so big taking poppers Maybe if you double
or triple the dosage and take Clomid, you
might see some benefit. Who knows?

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costanza
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posted June 13, 2000 01:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for costanza   Click Here to Email costanza     Edit/Delete Message
Don't do it. the diones are comparatively much weaker than the diols, so you need to take a lot more to get any effect.

Last year I tried norandrostenediol and took it up to a very high dosage to see if anything would happen. I got a slight weight gain and probably some gyno (which isn't supposed to happen).

You'll get mostly acne and gyno from the andros, and few gains.

By contrast my brief experience with anabolic steroids put weight on, kept weight on, and felt better doing it with a great pump.

There is even one more point to consider - prohormones are not understood very well and may have side effects that no one knows about yet.

Creatine and maybe tribulus would be more effective legal supplements to take. To say nothing of whey protein.

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BigTruck
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posted June 13, 2000 01:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BigTruck   Click Here to Email BigTruck     Edit/Delete Message
For the most part, all andro/norandro products are pretty wortless for gains. They are good to bump aggression or make you horny -- if you get a quality product.

You get all of the negatives (i.e. hormonal shutdown) with very, very little benefit.

With that said, I've heard good buzz about Androsol (biotest) and according to the late Duchaine, injectable norandro (such as the kind made by Syntrax [I think]) could be pretty potent.

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Androl
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posted June 13, 2000 04:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Androl   Click Here to Email Androl     Edit/Delete Message
I agree with BigTruck, Andros are worthless. Aggression and horny is all you'll get from it. Trust me, if you want some gains go for the real juice. Read Bigtruck's reply carefully, it's all you need to know.

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Thick dog
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posted June 13, 2000 05:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Thick dog     Edit/Delete Message
Waste of money. You might as well drive down the street throwing $100 bills out the window.

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