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FitnessChick
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posted June 11, 2000 05:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FitnessChick   Click Here to Email FitnessChick     Edit/Delete Message
I have been reading a lot of posts from people with a lot of Q's regarding this...
what to do if you are doing it, what to do if something goes wrong.... there was even a post about a guy ( cannot remember who)who said a cop or someone came to his house & told him not to mail order sauce....


here is some advice to some faq's( some are more common sense then others)....

-----Do not ever handwrite out orders & send
them.... it is evidence in your own script....


-----Another common sense one....NEVER EVER use your own name....especially if you are using your home address....there is no room for denial if the package has your name on it....

-----To lower your risk of getting caught use another address if possible...there is such a thing as an anonymous mail drop....for this info call Eden Press at 800-338-8484....( mail drops are advertised in Soldier of Fortune Mag)


-----Never EVER use a credit card or personal check....you should even avoid $ orders....some if sent internationally can take weeks to confirm...also dont western union $ with your rel name....BEST OPTION IS TO MAIL CASH....roll it up in a lot of paper in a card, to avoid theft....however keep in mind that sending more then 750.00 in cash oversees is also illegal


-----Keep orders small-you have the best chance of going through customs if your pkg. is less then 1 lb.----you can ask your source to break up your order....the extra $ pd. by you in shipping is worth the lessened risk.


-----Use US mail.....they move about 600 million pieces of mail a day ----more then Fed X & UPS mail per year---COMBINED----that means a lesser chance of your mail getting checked....Keep in mind first class mail cannot be opened or searched without a search warrent when travelling within the US....however all overseas mail may be inspected....however, it must be determined to look suspicious, set off an electronic scanner, or get sniffed out by a dog to be opened, or to match a known hot address....or if the pkg. slip lists contents which must have duty paid on it....
2nd, 3rd, & 4th class have less strict rules re:searching & therefore are more likely to be checked....


-----Never sign for anything-if you use regular mail, you shouldnt have to anyway. If a delivery person tries to make you sign for something, tell them they got the wrong person---noone by that name resides there.

-----Dont open a pkg. when you get it...as soon as you get it, put return to sender on box....circle the name( make sure its not yours)....This is a safeguard in case anyone shows up with a warrent, knowing you mail ordered sauce. If a pkg. was searched prior to its delivery & found to contain something it shouldnt, it may be delivered to you in order to get evidence of possession. Usually if a search will take place it will be within 24-72 hours after delivery...so after 3 days, you are good to go....


-----If you get a seizure notice from the US treasury that an oversees delivery has been held up, it will usually give you a chance to claim the pkg....it will usually say if you dont claim it it will be destroyed....you will usually get a 2nd letter b4 they actually do it....if that happens, you arent in trouble, but you lost your $....your name( or the fake name you hopefully gave) & address will be put on file, so dont use either or again.....


-----You can geet a hot list of supplirs currently being looked for by customs from the FDA... http://www.fda.gov/ora/fiars/ora_import_ia6657.html


Finally, there is a loophole in the import law for people with aids, cancer, & other illnesses...to check it out go to http://www.ceri.com/import.htm


hope this helped some Qs people have. A lot of this came from a book....yeah yeah, I am not the genuis you all thought I was...hehe
But I thought it was useful so I interpreted it & posted it for my ELITE FAMILY

[This message has been edited by FitnessChick (edited June 11, 2000).]

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Eramthgin
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posted June 11, 2000 05:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eramthgin   Click Here to Email Eramthgin     Edit/Delete Message
DAMN fine post FC

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FitnessChick
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posted June 11, 2000 05:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FitnessChick   Click Here to Email FitnessChick     Edit/Delete Message
bump---this is good info i want people to read

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Vitaman
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posted June 11, 2000 06:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vitaman   Click Here to Email Vitaman     Edit/Delete Message
Great advice. Bumping it up.

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animal B
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posted June 11, 2000 06:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for animal B   Click Here to Email animal B     Edit/Delete Message
where is that hot list at fitness chick!!!!!!

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ex-infantry
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted June 11, 2000 07:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ex-infantry   Click Here to Email ex-infantry     Edit/Delete Message
great post fitnesschick!!!! i'm sure that your research and info will help out alot of people save their cash and a**'s.

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bigmofo
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posted June 11, 2000 07:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bigmofo   Click Here to Email bigmofo     Edit/Delete Message
that was one of the best post's i have seen
in awhile,great info answered alot of questions,and was very matter of fact,thanks FC,well done.
peace,out

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Eramthgin
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posted June 11, 2000 07:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eramthgin   Click Here to Email Eramthgin     Edit/Delete Message
You all would think that we could maintain our own list somewhere.

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FitnessChick
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posted June 11, 2000 07:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FitnessChick   Click Here to Email FitnessChick     Edit/Delete Message
Bump---I corrected that web address Animal B was looking for

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Quarkey
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posted June 11, 2000 07:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quarkey   Click Here to Email Quarkey     Edit/Delete Message
Bump...very nice FS

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XXXL
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted June 11, 2000 07:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for XXXL   Click Here to Email XXXL     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 39468048
great info. thanks for taking the time!

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Brutis
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted June 11, 2000 08:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brutis   Click Here to Email Brutis     Edit/Delete Message
Fitness chick never ceases to amaze me. First the before and after photos and now this. This is some really good info. Thanks!

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FitnessChick
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posted June 11, 2000 09:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FitnessChick   Click Here to Email FitnessChick     Edit/Delete Message
BBBBBUUUUMMMPPPP.....

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45Plates
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posted June 11, 2000 09:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 45Plates   Click Here to Email 45Plates     Edit/Delete Message
FitnessChick-

Thanx Great post and also cleared up some questions I had.

Plates

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NEWMAXX
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posted June 11, 2000 09:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NEWMAXX   Click Here to Email NEWMAXX     Edit/Delete Message
If you do not use your real name with the address (US MAIL)..won't they just not deliver it, take it back?

I know this seems naive but, I just do not know.

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CornFed
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posted June 11, 2000 09:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CornFed   Click Here to Email CornFed     Edit/Delete Message
Very interesting, great info.. Thanks FITNESSCHICK

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FitnessChick
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posted June 11, 2000 09:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FitnessChick   Click Here to Email FitnessChick     Edit/Delete Message
No Newmaxx....they dont have a database with everyones name & matching address on it --to deliver, all they use is your address....

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THESAINT
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posted June 11, 2000 09:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for THESAINT   Click Here to Email THESAINT     Edit/Delete Message
Good info FC. Where do you find the time?

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denmaur
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted June 11, 2000 10:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for denmaur   Click Here to Email denmaur     Edit/Delete Message
Great job FitnessChick!!! Thanks for all the work.

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FitnessChick
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted June 11, 2000 10:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FitnessChick   Click Here to Email FitnessChick     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Saint---my man Irongod is gone on buisness, & I am bored....I spent all day out in the sun, came in, & now I am with the family hehe


besides ya all know this board is addictive...


plus I wanted to give back considering I have gotten so much info from everyone else

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efigy
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted June 11, 2000 10:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for efigy   Click Here to Email efigy     Edit/Delete Message
yee haw!
I love this board!
we may get a couple of losers from time to time but you couldn't pay for better quality info than this board supplies.
thanks fitnesschick!

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"conan, what is best in life?"
"TO CRUSH YOUR ENEMIES, TO SEE THEM DRIVEN BEFORE YOU, AND TO HEAR THE LAMENTATION OF THE WOMEN!!!"

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FitnessChick
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posted June 11, 2000 10:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FitnessChick   Click Here to Email FitnessChick     Edit/Delete Message
Bump 4 TRUEMUSCLE

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FitnessChick
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posted June 11, 2000 10:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FitnessChick   Click Here to Email FitnessChick     Edit/Delete Message
I am gonna keep bumpin this for new people logging on...I spent a lot of time putting this together...you all understand

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Natymike
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted June 11, 2000 11:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Natymike     Edit/Delete Message
awesome post FC. What if I am ordering clomid overseas, is this in the same category???

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always02
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posted June 11, 2000 11:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for always02   Click Here to Email always02     Edit/Delete Message
definately awesome post they should rename this elitefitnesschick message board, you always have good info, fitnesschick = future mod??????

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NoviceJuicer
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posted June 11, 2000 11:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NoviceJuicer     Edit/Delete Message
I added this to my favorites page so I can find this information again easily

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animal B
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posted June 12, 2000 12:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for animal B   Click Here to Email animal B     Edit/Delete Message
thanks FC, as long as I wasnt on that list....joking, hahahahah, actually never heard of anybody on that list

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ajc1977
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted June 12, 2000 12:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ajc1977     Edit/Delete Message
Good info. I wouldn't have the balls to try it anyway though.

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FitnessChick
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posted June 12, 2000 12:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FitnessChick   Click Here to Email FitnessChick     Edit/Delete Message
bump 4 animal

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ghans
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posted June 12, 2000 01:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ghans   Click Here to Email ghans     Edit/Delete Message
great post F.S. I hope everyone sees this. Thanks for your research.

ghans

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markaveli222
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posted June 12, 2000 01:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for markaveli222   Click Here to Email markaveli222     Edit/Delete Message
bump

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Natymike
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posted June 12, 2000 01:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Natymike     Edit/Delete Message
bump

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king89123
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posted June 12, 2000 02:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for king89123   Click Here to Email king89123     Edit/Delete Message
GOOD LOOKING OUT!
BUMP FOR FitnessChick.

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XXXL
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posted June 12, 2000 08:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for XXXL   Click Here to Email XXXL     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 39468048
hey fitnesschick. i have a few questions about packaging. any chance of you emiailing me? [email protected]

thanks!

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Linares868
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted June 12, 2000 09:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Linares868   Click Here to Email Linares868     Edit/Delete Message
BUMP

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FitnessChick
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posted June 12, 2000 10:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FitnessChick   Click Here to Email FitnessChick     Edit/Delete Message
xxxl...you can email me with your q's at fitnesschick @hushmail.com

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dafoe69
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted June 12, 2000 10:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dafoe69   Click Here to Email dafoe69     Edit/Delete Message
Bump up for everyone

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gearface
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posted June 12, 2000 10:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gearface   Click Here to Email gearface     Edit/Delete Message
bump

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Slopain
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posted June 12, 2000 11:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Slopain   Click Here to Email Slopain     Edit/Delete Message
bump for the weekend drunks who are sobering up today.

Slopain

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mokhtarsayed
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posted June 12, 2000 11:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mokhtarsayed   Click Here to Email mokhtarsayed     Edit/Delete Message
bump

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buffut
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posted June 12, 2000 11:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for buffut   Click Here to Email buffut     Edit/Delete Message
Great info Fitness Chick. Thanks for the great post!!

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Fish
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posted June 12, 2000 11:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fish   Click Here to Email Fish     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks.

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*B*
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posted June 12, 2000 11:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for *B*   Click Here to Email *B*     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 67250357
Back to the top....."B"

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FitnessChick
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posted June 12, 2000 12:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FitnessChick   Click Here to Email FitnessChick     Edit/Delete Message
big bump for all the moday morning late returners

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DubSack
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posted June 12, 2000 12:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DubSack   Click Here to Email DubSack     Edit/Delete Message
bump....I FEEL YA SLOPAIN

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powerhouse25
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posted June 12, 2000 01:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for powerhouse25   Click Here to Email powerhouse25     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks for the info FC. I read some of your info from a book about a year ago Physical Advantage.
Thanks again,because some of it I forgot.

Later,
PH25

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Diver
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posted June 12, 2000 01:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diver   Click Here to Email Diver     Edit/Delete Message
BEAUTIFUL POST!

oops hold on someone is knocking on the door hah j/k

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Dexter
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posted June 12, 2000 02:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dexter   Click Here to Email Dexter     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 71953041
Really good post. I especially liked the reference to the FDA site.

Should be pretty easy to see what counties are targeted.

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boink
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posted June 12, 2000 05:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for boink   Click Here to Email boink     Edit/Delete Message
FitnessChick: i like your post, and am new to this board, because i do not want to make enemys with anyone here i am using a different Username and IP =] i have only made about 6 posts on my regular username.. i must say that i am already addicted to this little community, and find it very helpful to me and my black market underworld adventures.. but i also have to say that when i read a post like yours, and read all the replies, i wonder about people like you quoting books and being so helpful with all this dea,fda and custom knowledge . . EVERYONE (law enforcement or not) reads the posts on these boards, so your information is only as helpful to us as the official who hasnt read your secrets about mail order and other topics yet. why not post such info in more private domains? the role of the good guys and the bad guys (atleast to me) on these boards is revearsed, law enforcment = bad and juice team = good so when you post such a helpful resource of info for everyone to read it defeats the purpose of helping the good guys. food for thought. . i personally appreciate your knowledge, but unfortunatley am not allowed to trust anyone here. . but i shall continue to read these posts and try to be of assistance anyway i can in this underworld. im sure many of u will have many a happy day at the gym nice and ripped from my sauce =] good luck to all bodybuilders everywhere reading, be careful! the demon that locks you in the cell is everywhere. . .

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Karate guy
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posted June 12, 2000 05:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Karate guy   Click Here to Email Karate guy     Edit/Delete Message
You're surprising me again Fitness Babe(I mean chick)you know about Eden Press. You know about Paladin too? Loompanics?

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Steriod_Virgin
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posted June 12, 2000 05:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Steriod_Virgin   Click Here to Email Steriod_Virgin     Edit/Delete Message
There is a conlficting school of mail order advice which says to use your real name. That way, if you do get busted, you wont be charged with mail fraud too.. Using a fake name via mail constitutes mail fraud, which carries a 5-10 year sentence of its own.

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Slopain
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posted June 12, 2000 05:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Slopain   Click Here to Email Slopain     Edit/Delete Message
If you use a fake name, it isn't your shit and you wouldnt accept it if someone comes asking questions right? I think your getting confused with the rule-of-thumb that says no fake id at Mail boxes ect. and the likes. Thats where the mail fraud comes in.

Slopain

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Yoda
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posted June 12, 2000 11:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yoda   Click Here to Email Yoda     Edit/Delete Message
I'll bump this up, some good info!!!

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B_Funk
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posted June 12, 2000 11:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for B_Funk   Click Here to Email B_Funk     Edit/Delete Message
bump....good info FitnessChick

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Steelsoldier
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posted June 13, 2000 02:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Steelsoldier   Click Here to Email Steelsoldier     Edit/Delete Message
Bump

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FitnessChick
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posted June 13, 2000 03:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FitnessChick   Click Here to Email FitnessChick     Edit/Delete Message
bump 4 ahthong

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Twisted_Steel
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posted June 13, 2000 10:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twisted_Steel     Edit/Delete Message
I think mail order "product" is waaaaaay to risky. Im amazed that so many of you are forced to go that route. However, this is one of the most informative posts I have ever read. Talk about a great way to engractiate yourself with the people on here.

Almost to good to be true

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rainhorn
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posted June 13, 2000 11:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rainhorn   Click Here to Email rainhorn     Edit/Delete Message
a very informative one.

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MS
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posted June 13, 2000 07:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MS   Click Here to Email MS     Edit/Delete Message
Good solid info Fitness Chick. One other thing that you should consider IF you order with email or via the internet is to convince your source (and yourself) to get encrypted email. And take a little extra time to drive to an internet cafe in the next town to place your order. Don't do this kind of transaction from your own computer and normal email address. Yes the walls MAY have ears. It is not too hard for DEA (or any common hacker)to intercept email sent to known sources and find out who's ordered what.

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redE2GROW
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posted June 13, 2000 11:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for redE2GROW   Click Here to Email redE2GROW     Edit/Delete Message
thank you for the very informative post FitnessChick

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"Go Hard or Go Home"!

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ox
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fc your the fucking bomb.

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ox
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posted June 14, 2000 01:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ox     Edit/Delete Message
fc your the fucking bomb.

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LivLarge
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posted June 14, 2000 07:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LivLarge   Click Here to Email LivLarge     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks FC i was just looking for this kind of info.

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Primo57
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posted June 14, 2000 10:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Primo57   Click Here to Email Primo57     Edit/Delete Message
Pretty damn good post!

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IndyMan2
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posted June 15, 2000 12:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndyMan2   Click Here to Email IndyMan2     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 2662180
Awesome post FC Great info!! Definitely worth bumping to the top.

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