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macrophage69alpha
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posted June 11, 2000 06:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for macrophage69alpha   Click Here to Email macrophage69alpha     Edit/Delete Message
1. Why do so many people use large gauge needles to inject?
this is totally unecessary- almost anything will go through a 25g needle- yet how often, I hear people using 21g or even 20g(cannons). The only reason that I bring this up is that scar tissue can become a big issue with frequent and/or long term use- USE SMALL GAUGE whenever possible- which is all the time- if you are injecting suspension heat it up- it is often granular and if not heated will only go through a large gauge pin. heating it up will cause solute to go into solution.

2. Why is it,or so it seems, that so few use drawing needles?

these puppies are cheap 4$ for a hundred. that way the needle you inject with is clean and sharp as can be. not only that you can use a 18g to draw- you can draw up anything with 18g in a matter of seconds. its sterile and makes everything easier.

3. why on earth does anyone re-use needles?

Ok, sometimes you run out, this should not happen, but if it does make sure to clean them with alcohol. other wise just order a bunch when you get them, they are pretty cheap and range from 12-28$ per 100 depending on gauge, source and manufacturer. Stock up on pins- dont risk infection for a 25 cent syringe. the doctors visit is going to cost you more than many boxes of pins.

4. injection volume- I often see people posting that they have done several one or two cc injections- heres a little breakdown that may suprise you:

glutes- can usually take 5cc per injection

quads- 2.5 to 3.5 cc considered safe range

delts 2-3 cc considered safe

calves- only if you want nerve damage- not advised

soviets+ eastern bloc atheletes did 10cc injections into glutes and quads- I dont recommend this but just goes to show the capacity.

Peace
BTW- scar tissue can limit muscle growth, contractions, flexibility and can result in loss of structural integrity making muscle tears more likely.

Heating of suspension solutions to get all of the solute to go into solution can be done with pan and water or in the microwave just be sure to not over heat- ie. do not boil your solution.
tips- if you are going to do it in the syringe- use microwave- out in a small tupperware bowl at an upward slant(so you dont lose any) stabilize- remove pin. nuke- for 4-5 seconds at a time until you get desired results- once you figure out total time you can just throw it in there for 12,15,19,23 etc.. this varies alot because of the wattage variance among microwaves. I would say that on average it take 15-25 sec on high.
if you are going to heat up in a multi use vial have everything ready so you can draw and inject before solution cools

DO NOT OVERHEAT
this may take some time and practice to get your technique down but it will make using suspensions much easier and stop you from getting "clogs" in your pins.


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MP

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jackfrost
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posted June 11, 2000 08:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jackfrost   Click Here to Email jackfrost     Edit/Delete Message
A very necessary and informative post. I totally agree with you on all points.

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Mojo
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posted June 11, 2000 09:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mojo   Click Here to Email Mojo     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 76848862
Good Re-post Bro. This should stay bumped with the newbie post!

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FitnessChick
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posted June 11, 2000 06:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FitnessChick   Click Here to Email FitnessChick     Edit/Delete Message
Bump...someone was looking for this but I cannot remember who

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Eramthgin
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posted June 11, 2000 06:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eramthgin   Click Here to Email Eramthgin     Edit/Delete Message
Damn fine post bro.

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Vitaman
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posted June 11, 2000 06:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vitaman   Click Here to Email Vitaman     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks for the info.

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bigmofo
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posted June 11, 2000 08:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bigmofo   Click Here to Email bigmofo     Edit/Delete Message
bump,back to the top

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Harleyguy
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posted June 12, 2000 01:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Harleyguy   Click Here to Email Harleyguy     Edit/Delete Message
Bump

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YellowD98
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posted June 12, 2000 01:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for YellowD98     Edit/Delete Message
Good stuff... bump

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THESAINT
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posted June 12, 2000 01:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for THESAINT   Click Here to Email THESAINT     Edit/Delete Message
Macro, Good post bro. Where've you been?

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T Bone
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posted June 12, 2000 01:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for T Bone     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks, mac... I was looking for this. You obviously saw my post.

Peace,
T Bone

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musclemail
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posted June 13, 2000 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for musclemail   Click Here to Email musclemail     Edit/Delete Message
good info..... bump

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FreakMonster
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posted June 13, 2000 09:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FreakMonster   Click Here to Email FreakMonster     Edit/Delete Message
I find that you have to use a 21 gauge needle when using Winny. I try and use 23 gauge with the Winny and it gets clogged up everytime. Anyone else experience this?

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