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Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted June 10, 2000 09:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ---==\S/==---   Click Here to Email ---==\S/==---     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 35410287
I have spent almost 2 years of hard dedication in bodybuilding. I plan to compete sometime middle next year. Im 18, 19 in nov. But there are kids in highschool some who know their bodybuilding stuff but they've juiced it and had great results. I understand theres alot of hormones already...but why to they get these amazing results from juicing it if so young? I personally want to juice real bad real bad. I did a bulk stage back last year nov late. Went from 149 to 180 in feb! And cut up from then till now and i have 2 weeks left then schools done and i can focus on my traning! i can't wait so ive slowly introduced cals starting this week.....but i don't want to settle for creatine...i just want to know why not to juice at a young age when others at 17,18 can get these great results...I know im going to get torn up right now by you guys but thats ok just go wasy im very understanding and don't get me wrong ive been in bodybuilding for a while and have read alllllllot about the sport and alllot bout nutrition as thats one of the key factors. Thanks for your time guys, this may not be the best way to make a introduction to this board but hey.

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MattTheSkywalker
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted June 10, 2000 09:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MattTheSkywalker   Click Here to Email MattTheSkywalker     Edit/Delete Message
Bro, There are several reasons to hold off.

First, at 18, 19 or so, your body's test levels are at the highest they will ever be, This is the time for you to make max. natural gains.

AS can also hinder bone growth. AS will accelerate the closure of growth plates, which will probably deprive you of some more height. I wouldn't trade even one of my 74 inches for all the lean body mass in the world.

As function best when you are at or near your genetic peak. AS will take you to another level once you have gotten as big as you possibly can naturally. That is certianly not at age 19.

Hope this helps you to make an informed decision.

Matt

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Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted June 11, 2000 12:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ---==\S/==---   Click Here to Email ---==\S/==---     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 35410287
Ok ... i feel as though i should just stick to a nice creatine stack and a very very good diet..oh and lets not forget working my ass off. Im actually working on a good routine right now back to the basics. So i'll see what i come up with then post it up here. Thanks for the advise.

AB

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Kahn
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted June 11, 2000 12:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kahn     Edit/Delete Message
In my mind the most important reason is that the body isn't done growing. I've heard that Lee Priest has brothers at 5'10. That happens if you start juicing at 13. He's awesome but BB won't mean much when he's 5'2 at 50 yrs old. You don't have much longer to go anyway. The odds of being as lucky as Arnold aren't worth trading the life away as the stakes are rising considerably. Hope this doesn't sound too gloomy. Everything in moderation

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Busy_Mind
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posted June 11, 2000 01:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Busy_Mind   Click Here to Email Busy_Mind     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 5850712
Simply put...HOLD OFF! No explaination needed. Take the time to do a ton more research in the meantime!

Cya with a pin stuck in your ass cheek a few years from now bro!

~BM~

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BehindYA
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted June 11, 2000 03:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BehindYA   Click Here to Email BehindYA     Edit/Delete Message
whatever

i cant be so F!�%& dangerous
AS maybe but test i whould say that it is OK

there have been studies on testosterone

doctor gave test to children

and i think this whould happen in the future to

READ THIS

taken out from a med forum

Micropenis is commonly due to fetal testosterone deficiency. The clinical management of this form of micropenis has been contentious, with disagreement about the capacity of testosterone treatment to induce a functionally adequate adult penis. As a consequence, some clinicians recommend sex reversal of affected male infants. We studied 8 male subjects with micropenis secondary to congenital pituitary gonadotropin deficiency from infancy or childhood to maturity (ages 18 to 27 years). Four patients were treated with testosterone before 2 years of age (group I) and four between age 6 and 13 years (group II). At presentation, the mean penile length in group I was 1.1 cm (-4 SD; range, 0.5 to 1.5 cm) and in group II it was 2.7 cm (-3.4 SD; range, 1.5 to 3.5 cm). All patients received one or more courses of 3 intramuscular injections of testosterone enanthate (25 or 50 mg) at 4-week intervals in infancy or childhood.

At the age of puberty the dose was gradually increased to 200 mg monthly and later to an adult replacement regimen. As adults, both group I and II had attained a mean final penile length of 10.3 cm 2.7 cm with a range of 8 to 14 cm (mean adult stretched penile length for Caucasians is 12.4 2.7 cm). Six of 8 men were sexually active, and all reported normal male gender identity and psychosocial behavior. We conclude that 1 or 2 short courses of testosterone therapy in infancy and childhood augment penile size into the normal range for age in boys with micropenis secondary to fetal testosterone deficiency; replacement therapy at the age of puberty results in an adult size penis within 2 SD of the mean. We found no clinical, psychologic, or physiologic indications to support conversion of affected male infants to girls. Further, the results of this study do not support the notion, derived from data in the rat, that testosterone treatment in infancy or childhood impairs penile growth in adolescence and compromises adult penile length.


just some info guys

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Eramthgin
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posted June 11, 2000 05:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eramthgin   Click Here to Email Eramthgin     Edit/Delete Message
Hey there.....

Heavy test will close off the ends of your bones. And then you will not grow anymore. Don't do it now wait for a few more years. Trust me about the height thing i'm only 5'7".

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BigT
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posted June 12, 2000 12:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BigT   Click Here to Email BigT     Edit/Delete Message
I think everyone is missing the point...this kid is 19 years old..not 13...he probably has all of his height unless he is a very, very late bloomer....however at age 19 your body is just beginning to fill out and gain incredible amounts of muscle...Bro, 2 years from now you'll be 20 lbs heavier than you are now, and 2 years from then you'll gain another 10...hold off until at leats age 23 or so...if you hit a wall then give AS a shot.

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getnswoll
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted June 12, 2000 02:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for getnswoll   Click Here to Email getnswoll     Edit/Delete Message
i started when i was 17, which was a mistake. but if you do decide to do it be ready for a life of juice. gains, losses, depression, limp dick, anger, temperment changes, and much more, think it out and do your research .

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