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Anabolic Discussion Board ok guys I need help on a GH, Insulin, T3 cycle
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Author | Topic: ok guys I need help on a GH, Insulin, T3 cycle |
conan69 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 1027) |
posted June 10, 2000 10:26 AM
ok for one i am not real familiar with GH use (have done it, but did it wrong) now i have access to 126 iu kits and i heard that the best way to do GH was with and Androgen (t200), insulin, and T3 i have done alot of research and reading up but i want to know how to use all these things together for can some one shoot me a cycle using these four ingredients thanks bros ------------------ IP: Logged |
conan69 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 1027) |
posted June 11, 2000 03:36 AM
damn i hate to bump myself but somebody must know about this stack??? come on gents help a brother out ------------------ IP: Logged |
Pops Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 151) |
posted June 12, 2000 03:05 AM
i cant help you with the t3 or insulin, but i can with the hgh. i dont have much experience with hgh but here goes. i did 4 ius a day (split morn and night) for 20 days and gained 5 lbs of muscle after having plateaud at 190 for close to 4 months. i took 2 weeks off and started up at 9 iu's a day and have been doing that for 12 days now. i am now at 203 lbs and have been on sos 250 at 500mgs every 7days. i am at day 9 of sos 250 therapy. my strength has gone through the roof, but have not experienced ANY fat loss from the hgh. just my experiences. -Pops IP: Logged |
irishblood Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 57) |
posted June 12, 2000 03:58 AM
thats a good stack if you have enough money to fuel that fire. thats alot of shit bro, are you sure you need all that in one cycle?? do all you want but since i see the shit every day - DONT mess with the insulin unless you know what you are doing..improper use of insulin, especially if your body does NOT REQUIRE it could prove detrimental!!(you could die)..leave that shit out IP: Logged |
lorenzo Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 103) |
posted June 12, 2000 06:58 AM
ok... I using all of it. Here is what I do...and I am soooooo pleased with the results. GH: 6 iu per day (3 before bed, 3 when I wake up) Insulin: start off low (6units 2x day) once when you wake up before first meal, once right after your workout. 2 on one off 2 on 2 off. I'm up to 15 units 2x a day. Make sure you eat enough after the injections. I inject IM and don't go into hypo until 1 hour after the injection. Eat enough to avoud hypo. TEST; I am at 1g of sust per week. I have gained 27 lbs since I started the cycle 4 weeks ago and am more ripped and vascular than when I started. t3: i use 50 mg per day throughout.
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bad brains Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 609) |
posted June 12, 2000 07:51 AM
Hey bro, I have never done gh or insulin, and as a good word of advice stay away from the T-3, read Mr Texas Guns article, about being fucked up on T-3, his thyroid don't function anymore at least not at this point and time. God be with him and hope everything goes well. I have about 200tabs of the shit that is going in the garbage today. ------------------ IP: Logged |
XXXL Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 292) |
posted June 12, 2000 08:15 AM
there's lots of great info out there on gh. let us know what you deside to do. everything i've read says to do between 4-8 iu's per day. most everybody goes with 4-6 iu's stating that 8 is too much. also, the info i've found says it's best it inject your gh before bed since natural gh dose it's thing while you sleep. as for how often to inject? i've read everything from everyday to every other day, to five days on one day off, four days on two days off and on and on. my buddy uses gh all the time and dose the 5 on 1 off so that's what i'm going to do and see what happens. 126iu's is a great start. if this is your first gh cycle i'd go low and work up until you see the results you expect. this way you're not wasting any. good luck and please keep us posted. IP: Logged |
lorenzo Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 103) |
posted June 12, 2000 08:17 PM
I forgot to mention that I do 6 iu per day... 6 day's on and one day off. IP: Logged |
Decaman Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 220) |
posted June 12, 2000 09:21 PM
Hey bad brains fuck throwing it out , i'll take them, been trying like hell to find some ------------------ IP: Logged |
elite hot topic Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 105) |
posted June 12, 2000 09:49 PM
here bud is some info Insulin therapy is crucial to achieve the massive size exhibited by today's professional bodybuilders. However, extreme caution must be exercised when using insulin to avoid a dangerous drop in blood sugars. Compounding this problem is the fact that significant amounts of insulin must be used to achieve the desired effect. In my research, I've seen very few articles accurately state the amount of insulin that should be used to induce anabolism. Most articles quote figures that are next to useless, in the range of 1-3 iu's a few times a day. Realistically, insulin is most effective when used in the 30-40 iu's a day range, with some professional bodybuilders using 3 times that amount! Carbohydrates must be consumed every time a dose of insulin is administered. A good rule of thumb is to consume 10 grams of carbohydrates for every 1 iu of insulin that is used. Since most doses should be in the 10 iu range, you must consume 100 grams of carbohydrate to protect yourself from hypoglycemia. These carbs should consist of a combination of simple and complex carbs. A few examples of this would be eating a banana with rice or drinking fruit juice with a baked potato. It's imperative that you always have an emergency source of simple carbohydrates on you at all times, whether it be a soft drink, candy bar, or tube of glucose paste. It's also a good idea to inform the people around you that you are using insulin so they know what to do if you start acting funny. Simply tell people that you have been diagnosed as a diabetic and go over the symptoms of getting "low" with them. I go so far as to wear a medic alert bracelet stating I'm a diabetic. Lastly, you should obtain a glucagon pen in case you really get in trouble. Glucagon has the opposite effect of insulin and will cause a massive release of glycogen from your liver and muscle cells. While insulin will certainly cause anabolism, it also has a tendency to make you fat. The dosing schedule described in Part I of this article solves that dilemma. When insulin is used during a steroid cycle, the fat burning properties of the steroids keeps fat gain to a minimum. When it's used during the cleaning out period, the simultaneous use of DNP will actually cause a reduction in bodyfat while the insulin keeps the loss of lean body mass at a minimum. IP: Logged |
elite hot topic Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 105) |
posted June 12, 2000 09:51 PM
more man from me elite hot topic got it frome extreme DNP use will cause a significant decrease in the production of thyroid hormones as your body attempts to counter its significant increase in temperature. As such, supplemental doses of T3 thyroid become crucial to maximize the effectiveness of DNP's fat burning characteristics. T3, available as Cynomel in Mexico, should be used at a rate of 25-50 mcg per day. It's also possible to use triatricol, available over the counter as a dietary supplement here in the US, failing acquisition of Cytomel or Cynomel. Triatricol should be supplemented at a rate of 1000-2000 mcg per day. IP: Logged |
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