posted June 08, 2000 11:24 AM            

The higher you go the more risk. The drugs these pros are using are just scary cause they are new and no one knows the long term side effects or even the effective dosages.

I am only willing to push my body so far as to compete in local and regional shows (level 1 and 2) no further. I probably don't have the genetics to go any further anyway

posted June 08, 2000 01:56 PM            

That dam acetobolan2 is giving him a huge GH gut. Some guy at my gym told me that in a recent muscletech I mean musclemag they acetobolan2 5 stars and real GH 4 stars.

Gotta get me some Acetobolan II.

posted June 08, 2000 02:08 PM            

Don't forget the year long T3 use, DNP to clean the receptors in between cycles and the bridging between cycles. Primo doesnt mean you are off steroids guys.

These guys are using shit like IGF-1 without knowing what it is actually doing. EPO is some scary shit when stacked with Diurectics pre-contest.

Some pros aren't to smart they take pottasium and aldactone or some other pottasium sparring diuretics and end up in hyperlykomea (spelling?).

They take what there trainer tells them.

posted June 08, 2000 02:22 PM            

winny v- .5 cc, eod for 6 weeks:then 1c eod for the 6 weeks leading up to the show

primo tabs-(2x50 mg. tabs a day for 6 weeks, then 4x50 mg tabs for 6 weeks up to show

anavar---(10x 2.5mg tabs a day for 4 weeks prior to show)

primo inj- 1 cc 2x week for 4 weeks prior to show

clen continuously, increased doseage for 4 weeks prior to show

now, mind you guys, this is a fitness competitor.....who placed 8th....

posted June 08, 2000 02:31 PM            

That was

posted June 08, 2000 02:45 PM            

wether this is real or not who knows.

THE PRO CYCLES

Now as you all know there are legal ramifications of admitting to steroid possession, and any inference that you use steroids also shows a criminal offence, and this
guy breaks more than his fair share of laws, so in respect to that please don't try and make threads on who it is as this will just cause troubles that none of us want (a
lot of you break a number of felonies per day).

This guy is BIG and he is famous among you all, he has competed at a pro level and has won many shows and placed highly in the Olympic many times.

I met him a year ago and we have kept in touch since and through him I have learnt a number of things, kind of like why things work to build muscles in a practical
sense, most of this (actually fuck, all of it) has to do with drugs and when I asked him if I could do this piece he was willing to help out as he says his time is limited
and he would like to help others when he could.

'Below is a list of what drugs he uses and why he uses them split in to precontest or off season

PRE-CONTEST:

10-7 WEEKS OUT

250 mg sustanon per day

250 mg testopan (enanthate) per day

1000 Deca Durabolin

Humatrope Growth Hormone, 6 units per, 6 times a day!! (Five times a week)

Long-Acting Insulin 100 units in the morning

Fast Acting insulin 25 units per meal (he is now to scared to eat without insulin)

Oxymethelone (whatever type he can get) 5x50mg tabs

300 mcg T3 per day

200-mcg clen (taken five days on 2 days off)

Nubain 5 ml a day, 3 times a week (supposedly to reduce the addictiveness)

Glucophage, taken before workouts, 4,000mg

He does do IGF-1 but he limits it to 4 week cycles as he believes that most of the research on this shows limited length of time of effectiveness. He will then follow
this up with a 4-week break

80 mg fluxoetine (prozac) to help with the chemical imbalances and to assist him to keep stress from the drugs down

180 mg Ephedrine Hydrochloride, before workouts

2-6 WEEKS OUT:

4,000 mg Testosterone Propionate

2 vials of Masteron

2 vials of Parabolan

10 tabs of halotestin per day, before training

DNP for a week in weeks 6,4 and 2

Clenbuterol on alternating weeks at 400mcg per day

T3 400mcg per day

Nubain as above

Insulin as above

Growth Hormone 6 units 6 times per day

IGF-1 for the four weeks to week 2 at 100 mcg per day.

100mg of fluxoetine (prozac)

Ephedrine as above

I estimate the mg's at somewhere around 6,500 to 7,000 mgs a week

WEEKS 2 AND FIRST HALF OF WEEK 1:

Same as above except the Nubain is dropped, as it is unnecessary, as well as the IGF-1 is dropped.

Also one extra ampoule of Parabolan and Masteron per day.

LAST THREE DAYS:

Uses neoton 500, creatine phosphate (its an injectable I believe) in his carb deplete/load, he was unspecific on dosages

Two days out he uses Lasix (still a favorite) 80 mg four times a day, for two days.

The newest thing out is a plasma expander, by the name of

Groenaut, apparently from Europe, this works much in the same way as Glycerol in that it drams water out from underneath the skin and into the muscle and
bloodstream leaving a very dry full look if it is done correctly, of course as with high stakes bodybuilding there is that ever apparent degree of risk, the risk here is
mixing a diuretic which dumps the water from the system and a drug that tries to pull the water in, if the effect is too great, the least that could happen is that you
don't fill out and you look flat, dry but flat, the worst well the drug tends to favor skeletal muscle over smooth cardiac muscle, hence you are then in shit street as
your heart dehydrates, and cardiac arrest kicks in, (not the same thing as Momo, though).

There are a lot of other drugs that are used such as amphetamines to help blunt the appetite and to give him energy as he gets closer to a show, as his body fat drops
down to below 5 percent, he tends to feel very ill and tired, he also uses a lot of immuno stimulating supplements so he doesn't get sick, of course as he is wired from
the amphetamines he has to use xanax, halicon and valium (rotated to reduce reliance on a certain drug supposedly).

On show day the use of insulin before going on stage to get the last bit of fullness and bring out his vascularity, (up close this guy has veins that an octopus would
envy. Shooting 10 units I.V before going on but after any pumping up he does

posted June 08, 2000 03:10 PM            

I have no fucking clue...

posted June 08, 2000 06:42 PM         

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posted June 09, 2000 10:05 AM            

15,000 for a pro is good. I know a guy who spent 5000$ on a local level 1 show and he placed fourth.

I only spent about 500-600$ on that show.

posted June 09, 2000 12:09 PM            

Now E2's newbie cycle does not look big at all.

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