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StoneColdGold
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted June 08, 2000 01:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StoneColdGold   Click Here to Email StoneColdGold     Edit/Delete Message
i'm one week into my eight week cutting cycle. one shot of primobolan depot per week, starting at 400mg and ending at 250mg. Also, 30mg of Reforvit-B per day, in three divided doses. I am 6'2, 240lbs, at 13% bodyfat. I have a few questions...

First, I haven't noticed much after a week and two days. My muscles seem a little harder, thats about it. No noticible increases in strength. Is this normal? From what I understand about d-bol, I should have noticed something by now. Considering this, should I up my dosage of Reforvit? I know a lot of guys do up to 50mg per day.

Also, I was thinking of extending the use of the Reforvit through five weeks, instead of my just four as I initially planned. Do you think this is wise? I don't have any previous experience with orals, so I don't know what to do here. I am using 400mg of Milk Thistle and 2 grams of Primrose Oil a day to help out the liver.

Also, I've been kind of annoyed with my diet, so I'm thinking of switching to a Ketogenic diet for the remainder of the cycle. I had a very good experience with a ketogenic diet previously, and I was thinking it would really help me get cut, considering that the primobolan and reforvit should ensure that I don't lose any muscle.

Finally, I would appreciate any thoughts on what to expect in the next seven weeks, given my cycle and diet. That way, I will be able to tell if I am on track or if I need to make some changes.

Thanks all.

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JuiceBoy
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posted June 08, 2000 02:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JuiceBoy   Click Here to Email JuiceBoy     Edit/Delete Message
why ref in a cutting cycle?

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StoneColdGold
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posted June 08, 2000 02:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StoneColdGold   Click Here to Email StoneColdGold     Edit/Delete Message
Well, I suppose I could just as easily label it a bulking cycle, but neither is exactly right. My goal for the eight week cycle is to lose 10 lbs of fat and gain 10 lbs of muscle. So, I guess call the cycle whatever makes the most sense. But the Ref-B is to allow me to make the muscle gains I want while on a mildly restricted calorie diet and doing tons of cardio.

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StoneColdGold
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posted June 10, 2000 04:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StoneColdGold   Click Here to Email StoneColdGold     Edit/Delete Message
bump... any thoughts please???

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TwinGATs
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posted June 10, 2000 04:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TwinGATs   Click Here to Email TwinGATs     Edit/Delete Message
you don't use ref-b on a cutting cycle

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StoneColdGold
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posted June 10, 2000 04:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StoneColdGold   Click Here to Email StoneColdGold     Edit/Delete Message
like i said... its as much a bulking cycle as it is a cutting cycle. The designation is completely arbitrary in this case. But I would truly appreciate some responses to my above concerns. Thanks.

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StoneColdGold
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posted June 10, 2000 10:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StoneColdGold   Click Here to Email StoneColdGold     Edit/Delete Message
bump

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