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CB38AC Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 278) |
posted June 07, 2000 10:02 PM
  
I have read a lot and taled to a lot of people and put together my long 7 month cycle for my first cycle. I am not going to mess around I plan on going form 190 at 14-15% body fat to aroung 225-230 and 6% or so. I figure to bulk with high calories for 10 weeks on sust since it is slow to kick in and E2 once said to do so. Then maintain with pfg2 and proviron after this. Durring this period I will be able to get my natural test production going, lose a little fat, gain a little muscle and have very very hard muscles. Finally i plan to cut on 100mg winny ED for 7 weeks. Once this is all done if body fat is not low enough DNP may be used. BULKING THE WINNY DOSAGE IS 100MG PER DAY FOR 700MG PER WEEK....SORRY..DOES THIS UPDATE CHANGE ANYTHING NOW E2? For weeks 25-27 just clomid folled by DNP if needed ------------------ [This message has been edited by CB38AC (edited June 07, 2000).] [This message has been edited by CB38AC (edited June 08, 2000).] IP: Logged |
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Rich1 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 589) |
posted June 07, 2000 10:12 PM
You are playing a dangerous game friend, we'll all send our sorrow to your next of kin. This man is insane. Enlarged heart, high BP, stroke, vegetable, and paralysed for life or better yet all of the above, and brain dead too...Sorry we'll miss the funeral, but maybe we'll read about it in the news that your sure to be..history that is. You can't stay on that long bro...sorry to hear it. IP: Logged |
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moe dank Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 705) |
posted June 07, 2000 10:16 PM
well its your life so live it how you want. I for one think that is too much. WAY TO MUCH. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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FitnessChick Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 502) |
posted June 07, 2000 10:18 PM
is this a joke....i really hope so.....you need to read read read & learn....you are going to hurt yourself like that... IP: Logged |
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CB38AC Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 278) |
posted June 07, 2000 10:19 PM
7 month cycle to get attention but its really only like 10 week folled by 6 off and then 7 on. AFTER ALL THIS I WILL TAKE 6-7 MONTHS OFF WITH MAYBEE JUST SOME PROVIRON AND PFG2. IP: Logged |
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massmarjim Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 158) |
posted June 07, 2000 10:20 PM
Dude you are out of your mind. You are probably going to shit your liver out. IP: Logged |
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CB38AC Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 278) |
posted June 07, 2000 10:23 PM
Not a joke I just want to do one nasty cycle and then get of for a while. Oh well if everyone feels this way I may change the winny or d-bol a little Was going to take a lot of milk thistle, legalon (same active ingredient as milk thistle, and udo's choice ect for the liver. IP: Logged |
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Rich1 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 589) |
posted June 07, 2000 10:31 PM
Don't play games with us here, we do give a damn, but there are limits to our giving a shit. Glad to hear some common sense bro. This is not a joke to be playing around with these kinds of cycles. IP: Logged |
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deadliftr Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 12) |
posted June 07, 2000 10:35 PM
Dude..that cycle would not kill you...i mean i would break it up into 2 with 2 months off..but i mean pro's are on for years...if you take off like you say after your done i say go for it...email me if you got any q's IP: Logged |
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CornFed Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 163) |
posted June 07, 2000 10:39 PM
Dude I personally believe just the sust foryour first cycle only needs to 500mg at the most. That's a pretty sketchy cycle though. You would probably be very suprised how little your body will respond to the juice especially on your second "cycle" take it easy and get a feel for how your body will respond to each drug on a smaller platform then experiment. That's great you have set some goals but going from 190 15-16%bf to 235 with 6% body fat is a near impossibility. Check with E2 see what he thinks but I think it's kinda sketchy IP: Logged |
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The_Blond_Myth Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 237) |
posted June 07, 2000 10:54 PM
First of all that cycle is a joke, what the hell were u thinking when u put that together. U want to go from 190 to 230? u can do that with a 10 week cycle, then cut for 4 weeks then another 10. Maintain with pgf and proviron, yeah go ahead you'll maintain alright, you'll maintain your natural size without gear. 7 months, your a real joke. U think your a hardass or something? by month 6 you'll need 2,000 mg of test to be making any gains, if u don't take any breaks. LP IP: Logged |
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Mickey Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 91) |
posted June 07, 2000 11:33 PM
In my Omnadren and Deca 10 wk cycle I am gaining pretty well so far. I am currently on week 5. I have gone from 195lbs to 216. AND I AM ONLY HALF WAY DONE!!!!! In short..you need to realize that your goal can be achieved in 10 weeks. IP: Logged |
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big_guy1 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 883) |
posted June 08, 2000 12:26 AM
too much/too long for a first cycle bro... big-guy IP: Logged |
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redE2GROW Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 16) |
posted June 08, 2000 12:50 AM
I.M.H.O. That cycle is way too long. I would divide it into 2 if I were you. With a break in between. Peace ------------------ IP: Logged |
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CB38AC Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 278) |
posted June 08, 2000 12:56 AM
I here what everyone is saying but in some ways i don';t get it. It really is two cycles with a bridge of pfg2 and proviron. Maybee I could lower the sust dosage but some may not agree with that even though that seems to ne what most are saying. And as for the cutting phase I just don't want to use EQ or fina so I was planning on high doses of winny Don't take this as trying to be a hardass and stick up for my cycle to great length I just want more specific advice than, to much. why do you think its too much and how else can I reach this goal of beeing 35 pounds heavier and still very cut in this period. dose anyone doubt this would work. just wondering. thanks IP: Logged |
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Vlad67 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 274) |
posted June 08, 2000 08:42 AM
Im with CB on this one.... Its really not a long cycle but it is really two cycles with a bridge.... i have never used provion so i am not an expert on the damage that can do and how it will effect your receptors.....many of the cycles I have seen on here jam this guys 7 month into 8weeks and then some.... ..... for a first cycle I agree it is a little much .. probably does not need 750 of sust 500 would do... and for being on that long i would not do any orals....and make sure you take milk thistle to protect your liver and dont drink...... ....my .02 VK IP: Logged |
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E2 Moderator (Total posts: 3390) |
posted June 08, 2000 10:25 AM
This cycle is nothign special, i don't know why the hell you're all saying it's going to kill him, he'll be fine, this is typicall. It's not even that hard. I'd up the doses, the sust i'd go to 1000mg/week at the beginning, the dbol i'd up to 50mg.day and in the bulking phase i'd add something else in like either some prop or some eq or deca. In the cutting phase, i'd up the doses a lot, 100mg of winny a week is nothing, no big deal at all, you need at least 150 to see some results, i'm assuming that you're just taking the winny at 100mg to help preserve muscle while doing cardio like a madman??? In that case still up it to at least 150. I would like to se 50mg ed or 350 a week or more. That would be a lot better. DOn't forget your liver helpers on the cycle, take care of that. You should do well off this cycle. Keep us posted on the results. IP: Logged |
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CB38AC Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 278) |
posted June 08, 2000 01:17 PM
I meant 100mg of winny every day not each week for a total of 700mg per week. IP: Logged |
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pizza man Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 82) |
posted June 08, 2000 01:26 PM
hey bro, it will not kill you, i did something almost like that for my 1st cycle and i retained about 80% And i did it when i was 38 and was on for 10 months. Yes i have high blood pressure but i think it was worth it. IP: Logged |
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lexicon Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 212) |
posted June 08, 2000 02:20 PM
I think you should make sure you are fully aware of the proper way (If there is one) to use PGF2 and T3. Otherwise you will have no health problems at all with those amounts of AS. IP: Logged |
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FitnessChick Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 502) |
posted June 08, 2000 02:24 PM
....so it isnt that bad, huh....i thought ingesting shit for 7 mo.s is a little much....but i guess if you look at it as 2 cycles its not that bad....live & learn...i learned something new today IP: Logged |
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WarLobo Moderator (Total posts: 568) |
posted June 08, 2000 02:43 PM
This is not that hard of a cycle at all. The only problem with the duration is, DO YOU HAVE THE MENTAL CAPACITY TO MAINTAIN SUCH AN INTENSE LEVEL TO GET YOUR DESIRED RESULTS? This is where I see the problem. This is you first cycle. You have never been through this before. What are you contingence plans? What are you going to do WHEN you get sick? And you will catch a cold or even the flu. How are the other people in your life going to respond to such a dramatic (and long term) life style change and even the resulting physical changes? Just a few thing to think about before you get started�. Late Lobo IP: Logged |
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CB38AC Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 278) |
posted June 08, 2000 03:49 PM
Thanks for that outlook Warlobo That gives me more to think of but I am waiting for What E2 has to say about 700mg winny a week. IP: Logged |
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THESAINT Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 695) |
posted June 08, 2000 07:52 PM
Until I got to E2s post I was thinking there were alot of wrong info out there. That cycle is average at most. You will be on an off cycle when you are on the pgfa2. I would take the winny at 100mgs/eod. IP: Logged |
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WarLobo Moderator (Total posts: 568) |
posted June 08, 2000 08:01 PM
700mg winny - fits right in with that other thread on 1000mg test vs. 1000 winny Take a read on it. Guess if you got the cash, and winny works well for you, then hell, 700 should be more than enough to do the trick. Late Lobo IP: Logged |
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animal B Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 477) |
posted June 08, 2000 11:49 PM
id ont think its that much, in fact its weak, its long, but its week, the longest cycle ive done is 16 weeks and still in the middle IP: Logged |
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Jay Z Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 623) |
posted June 09, 2000 12:21 AM
good luck let us know how it works ------------------ IP: Logged |
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CB38AC Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 278) |
posted June 09, 2000 12:26 AM
I will when I get started. I'm still gathering my stuff and I'm going to add glucophage to the cutting part atleast and maybee post workout with creatine in tha maintaining part. IP: Logged |
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Vlad67 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 274) |
posted June 09, 2000 12:35 AM
yipppie.. lets all jump on the E2 bandwagon...
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