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rx123
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted June 07, 2000 06:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rx123     Edit/Delete Message
doing a cycle of just eq at 300-400mg a week, unfortunately i've been partied a lot lately and hence drinking alot with that, i started the cycle 3 weeks ago, it's just started to kick in.........first it's a injectable so it does avoid first pass effect to the liver, second it's a very mild steroid........so i'm wondering how bad is it actually for me to drink while on this juice?

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goleafs
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posted June 07, 2000 06:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for goleafs   Click Here to Email goleafs     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 64961519
dont drink if your taking orals , its too hard on the liver. although milk thistle will save you a little.

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SSMAN
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posted June 07, 2000 07:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SSMAN   Click Here to Email SSMAN     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 74456922
Having watched a good friend lay in a hospital bed with liver failure....watching him take his last breath at the age of 44....I would advise against any drinking while on gear.

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jdismukes
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posted June 07, 2000 07:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jdismukes   Click Here to Email jdismukes     Edit/Delete Message
I would advise agianst drinking and juicing. Not only could you do liver damage, Your blood pressure could give you trouble. I guess it comes down to if you want to party or you want to be a serious bodybuilder.

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Twisted_Steel
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posted June 07, 2000 08:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twisted_Steel     Edit/Delete Message
Well, your obviously not concerned with competative bodybuilding if your consuming alcohol on a regular basis. Your most probably medically obese or 145 lb ectomorph looking for a measure of adequacy by using Juice. Having concluded that I would say go right on ahead and overload yourself with as much alcohol as possible. You will doubtfully ever fully realize your true potential.

Godbless

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SSMAN
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posted June 07, 2000 08:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SSMAN   Click Here to Email SSMAN     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 74456922
Only a true jackass would even make a comment about "loading up on as much alcohol as possible".

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Dirk
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posted June 07, 2000 10:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dirk   Click Here to Email Dirk     Edit/Delete Message
I Agree with SSMAN. This is a legit question. I would hope no one would take orals and drink much, but us less-than-pro bodybuilders do go out occasionally. Depending on your cycle, alcohol consumption in moderation once a week would be tolerable. Of course, the best course is abstinence, but many "gear-heads" tend to live on the edge a little (as evidenced by the usage of gear) and thus may roll the dice with a few shots of Patron and a couple of beers on a Saturday. Suggest evening primrose, lots of water, and a serious protein shake before retiring that eve.

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MattTheSkywalker
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posted June 07, 2000 10:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MattTheSkywalker   Click Here to Email MattTheSkywalker     Edit/Delete Message
Bro,

This topic has been on here 1000 times. I hope you read the old posts.

Drinking on gear is not real smart. In addition to liver probs, alcohol kills off any hopes of a successful diet. Alcohol has 7 cals per gram, and s\also slows digestion to a crawl.

Matt

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toby
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posted June 07, 2000 10:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for toby   Click Here to Email toby     Edit/Delete Message
DRINKING WILL KILL YOUR GAINES PRETTY GOOD. TRY GHB OR SOME GOD OLD HERB. GHB IN MY OPINION IS BETTER ANYWAY AND IT IS NOT HARD ON YOUR BODY.

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rx123
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posted June 07, 2000 10:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rx123     Edit/Delete Message
first of all, thanks for the decent, non judgemental responses.......

second, and excuse my language, but FUCK YOU twisted steel.....get a life

my question was one of genuine concern....expecting some intelligent insight....i am not or plan on being a competitive bodybuilder.....i'm a model and am fortunate enough to be able to go out and party with some really fun ppl

god knows the amount of juice you monsters shove into your body, cant be any worse than me doing a very weak cycle and going out and drinkintg a few crown and cokes...and thats what i was wondering

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greenhouse
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posted June 07, 2000 11:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for greenhouse   Click Here to Email greenhouse     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 43682495
rx123,
I am not ever going to be bodybuilder. I DO not want to be... The drinking on a cycle has always been a huge debate here. I have been on here for a year or so, and have seen 100s of post about this. I am a Rush chairman for a Fraternity, hence that envolves me taking out potential rushs and getting them fucked up. I also really enjoy having a few every once in a while. Just look up the post of Liver Aids. And take them on a regular basis. And as to Twisted Steel, calm the fuck down. A. I am not obese. B. I am in no way 145lbs. Just because you devote your life to lifting does not give you the right to talk down someone like. ANY DRUG IN EXCESS IS BAD, JUST BE THE REGULATOR.

peace

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matty
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posted June 08, 2000 12:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for matty   Click Here to Email matty     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 74082278
1st off were not talking about orals here anyway!! everybodys saying oral this oral that! he asking about EQ!!! and EQ is not liver toxic at all, therefore drinking is not going to be more of a problem to the liver, then it is on its own....dont get me wrong you wont get anywhere with your cycle, as far as gains etc... and its deff not a good thing to mix with AS as far as hormones and blood pressure and what not, but its not the same as say drinking on anadrol, dbol, winstrol or any 17aa steriod! correct????

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hookitup
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posted June 08, 2000 01:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hookitup     Edit/Delete Message
Hey, it's your money - but I would try to stay as clean as possible, since this stuff is not cheap. You are on a timeframe right now - the cycle is not going to last forever, but you are in a cycle. Hey, if you partied a little, so what? Can't undo it, right? But, I would go ahead and finish the cycle as clean as I could if it were me - just some friendly advice.

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rx123
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posted June 08, 2000 02:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rx123     Edit/Delete Message
hey,

thanks alot fellas, i appreciate your advice.......

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POW
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posted June 08, 2000 03:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for POW   Click Here to Email POW     Edit/Delete Message
rx123 drinking to excess will harm you but once a week in moderation will not.
As green house so rightly said you be the regulator.

POW

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POW
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posted June 08, 2000 03:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for POW   Click Here to Email POW     Edit/Delete Message
rx123 drinking to excess will harm you but once a week in moderation will not.
As green house so rightly said you be the regulator.

POW

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Natymike
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posted June 08, 2000 10:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Natymike     Edit/Delete Message
I agree with the once a week in moderation, but moderation means don't get absolutely hammered and drink a weeks worth of alcohol in one night.

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FitnessChick
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posted June 08, 2000 10:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FitnessChick   Click Here to Email FitnessChick     Edit/Delete Message
if you are juicing to get good gains, why inhibit them with alcohol....if you are going to do it, do it 100%...not to mention a.s. are hard on your body as is....dont consume alcohol to top if off....its not worth it

[This message has been edited by FitnessChick (edited June 08, 2000).]

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HunterThompson
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posted June 08, 2000 10:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for HunterThompson   Click Here to Email HunterThompson     Edit/Delete Message
In all honesty, getting your priorities straight is the best thing you can do. That doesn't mean that you can't have fun. Everyone is different, but I would advise against drinking while taking orals although I have done it once and oh fucking well. If your on eq, your gains for the most part will be minimal anyways, in most cases.
People on here take this stuff so seriously and themselves too. The bodybuilding lifestyle that i see in my gym is idiotic. They look at themselves in the mirror like they want to make love to themselves. So based on how you percieve yourself, base your decisions on that, not some freak who counts his calories all day. Those people are boring and there are plenty of them around. Do you think Arnold never drank? He and his buds use to load up a pickup and go squat in the woods for a few hours and take a couple of kegs with them along with some chicks and have a grand old time.

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Twisted_Steel
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posted June 08, 2000 05:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twisted_Steel     Edit/Delete Message
If you cant take the response dont ask. Im not going to coddle or acomodate myself to repetative ignorance. Those of you who dont like some of my sharper responses I appologize. But, in the long run I think you will be able to deal with them.

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SSMAN
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posted June 08, 2000 06:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SSMAN   Click Here to Email SSMAN     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 74456922
Twisted Steel.....if the questions asked bother you, don't reply. It's a much better alternative to you being a jackass.

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