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got big?
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posted June 07, 2000 01:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for got big?   Click Here to Email got big?     Edit/Delete Message
mg scales are EXPENSIVE. One theory was to mix 5g with 100ml of water giving you 50mg/ml, this theory sounds good, but would it work? The powder is relatively cheap if a scale or other means is not needed. Some help please?

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SCHNiKEN
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posted June 07, 2000 02:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SCHNiKEN   Click Here to Email SCHNiKEN     Edit/Delete Message
I too have been looking for answers to this question.. i think that there is a way to rent these scales for a relatively cheap price.. some one on the board pointed me in the direction of the yellow pages that there were companys you could rent these scales from.. use them.. and then return them..

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SCHNiKEN
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posted June 07, 2000 02:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SCHNiKEN   Click Here to Email SCHNiKEN     Edit/Delete Message
By the way.. anyone who has used these powders.. or ordered them already please drop me a e-mail i have a few questions.. would really appreciate it bros..

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Bury MeBig
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posted June 07, 2000 03:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bury MeBig   Click Here to Email Bury MeBig     Edit/Delete Message
i also am considering the powders need all the info i can get...it does not seem like alot of guys are going the powder route..this concerns me cuz it seems to be really cost effective route..not alot of hassle either..especially when our friend will convert it cheaply..more info please..

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got big?
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posted June 07, 2000 07:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for got big?   Click Here to Email got big?     Edit/Delete Message
bump someone has to know..
SCHNiKEN, heh if you're on the east coast we should buy a scale, meet up weigh it out, then return it and say we only needed a postage scale!

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Juicer56
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posted June 07, 2000 10:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Juicer56     Edit/Delete Message
i got 10g of winny the other day and went to the local smoke shop and bought a digital scale thats accurate down to the 1/10g so it ok i let it flicker in between .2-.3 and take that as 25mg 2x/day....good shit....fuck capsules i just use a little 1/8 tsp. and weigh the tare out and drop in my mouth...yum

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giantset
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posted June 08, 2000 12:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for giantset   Click Here to Email giantset     Edit/Delete Message
Juicer,

If the scale is only accurate to 1/10 of a gram then there is no way that you can accurately weigh the powder. 1/10gram is 0.1 grams or 100mg. If you let it sit between .2-.3 then it is between 200 and 300mg. I hope you meant 1/100 of a gram accuracy and you were taking .02 to .03cg(centigrams) of the powder or you may be in trouble. Everyone needs to make sure that they understand how their scale works or you may end up taking 250mg a day of d-bol or winny like Juicer may have done.

Later,
giantset

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bignate73
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posted June 08, 2000 01:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bignate73   Click Here to Email bignate73     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 65081685
yikes!!
glad i read this thread, i had some concerns on that as well. measuring and such. i think just getting a kit and making an injectable would be a good route.

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CB38AC
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posted June 08, 2000 01:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CB38AC   Click Here to Email CB38AC     Edit/Delete Message
What about the water meathod of mixing 5 grams in 100ml of water and skaing it up when you want to use it and taking 1ml ED that will average right around 50mg/ml. for the price (almost free) and convience it sounds great. Also winny should be stable in water as winny V is water based.

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got big?
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posted June 08, 2000 01:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for got big?   Click Here to Email got big?     Edit/Delete Message
bump for the water question
you should be able to mix it in with water right? isn't that why some stuff settles on legit winny? because it didn't properly dissolve. Please help us! I'm about to just sprinkle it over some frosted flakes!

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CB38AC
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posted June 08, 2000 01:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CB38AC   Click Here to Email CB38AC     Edit/Delete Message
Using the meathod i am asking about it will not fully dissovle and may not dissolve at all but my point is that when you shake it up good them immediately get the ammount you need this will not matter at it will still be suspended ans allow for a pretty accurate dose that will average out over the long term to 50mg/ml. It may be off here or there but for the cost and convienience it sounds good to me.

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giantset
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posted June 08, 2000 02:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for giantset   Click Here to Email giantset     Edit/Delete Message
I wonder if you would need to use bacteriostatic water and seal it up in a 100cc bottle. I know you will be taking it orally but I still wouldn't want shit growing in it. You guys are tempting me to order some of the powder. I have to keep telling myself that overseas is too risky...must...not... take...unnecessary...risk. At $400-500 for 10grams for winny though, I can barely hold back.

Later,
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pillboy
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posted June 08, 2000 11:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pillboy   Click Here to Email pillboy     Edit/Delete Message
Bacteriostatic water is only used so you dont get an infection. To the water question will it disolve or not... Whether its winny v or winny tabs the drug is the same, stanozolol. If you ever get real winny v it looks milky(once shaken) due to the fact the stanozolol does not disolve, it actually seperates. The water powder combo should work, yeah it may be off a few mg's here and there but it sure is better than spending $400 on a scale. This is the way to go.

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Juicer56
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posted June 08, 2000 12:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Juicer56     Edit/Delete Message
actually i did fuck up..the scale shows .1 but each full 1.0 on the scale means 100mg so dont worry im not taking the equivilent to half a winny bottle a day...hmmm thats not a bad idea...but it works great but the packaging it comes in is kinda hard to deal with the powder

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got big?
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posted June 08, 2000 01:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for got big?   Click Here to Email got big?     Edit/Delete Message
damn tho for a few hundred bucks I wanna be sure i'm not dumping 5g of powder into water and ruining it. So what kind of container would be best to put this in to mix it? I don't wanna use the coke glass I got from the gas station! And after I pour in the powder, I could shake it up, suck out 1cc (50mg) shoot it in my mouth, then do what with it? Store it in the fridge?

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CB38AC
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posted June 08, 2000 02:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CB38AC   Click Here to Email CB38AC     Edit/Delete Message
I will try to get more info but i think it would be best to get a glass bottle sterilize it and use sterile water and put a lid of it. This way it will atleast be sterile for a while and it will slow down degradation if any takes place.

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got big?
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posted June 08, 2000 02:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for got big?   Click Here to Email got big?     Edit/Delete Message
CB38AC, please keep me informed. I will try this method just because if it works, it'll be a good source for upcoming cycles which I want to incorporate winny throughout.

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2 Big
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posted June 08, 2000 03:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 2 Big     Edit/Delete Message
Use a micro-scoop, it can contain about 90 mg of powder, so take half, or make 90 mg /2cc.

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got big?
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posted June 08, 2000 03:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for got big?   Click Here to Email got big?     Edit/Delete Message
where can you get a microscoop from? 45mg a day would be just about what I want...

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cockdezl
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posted June 09, 2000 09:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cockdezl     Edit/Delete Message
First off, mixing Winstrol with water will get you nowhere, since steriods are not water soluble. All you will get will be a clump of powder, that will be hard to separate and will not be homogenous. Get some Everclear or propylene glycol, which can be bought through livestock catalogues. The Everclear should have a high enough ethanol concentration to dissolve the Winny.

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GymRatSD
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posted June 09, 2000 11:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GymRatSD   Click Here to Email GymRatSD     Edit/Delete Message
Do you realize how much it would hurt to inject 90% ethanol (booze) in your ass? It would be on fire for DAYS. Most injectable anabolics are oil based, including most Winstrol. The cheapest way is to buy some peanut oil from a grocery store, heat to about 200-250 degrees to kill off any bacteria (yet low enough to prevent burning), let it cool, then blend your Winstrol powder. It will dissolve completely and easily.

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eatme116
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posted June 09, 2000 11:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for eatme116   Click Here to Email eatme116     Edit/Delete Message
What my friend did was get an empty 100ml vial from the A-man, add the 5g of powder and then add 100ml of gbl (solvent). If you use water the powder will just clump and you will not get an accurate dose. The use of gbl, or any other solvent for that matter, will allow the winny to mix homogeneously throughout the solution.

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CB38AC
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posted June 09, 2000 12:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CB38AC   Click Here to Email CB38AC     Edit/Delete Message
Would 50ml gbl and 50ml of water work? What about 50ml 91% ethenol and 50ml water?

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got big?
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posted June 09, 2000 12:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for got big?   Click Here to Email got big?     Edit/Delete Message
BTW guys, we're not talking about mixing this with water to INJECT IT. We're just talking about the water route to get an accurate dose without needing to buy a $400 mg scale.
Also, cockdezl not all steroids are water soluble, but since winstrol is a water based steroid, this is where we came up with the theory of mixing it with water.

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CB38AC
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posted June 09, 2000 12:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CB38AC   Click Here to Email CB38AC     Edit/Delete Message
Winstrol is not water solluble and i knew that before i posted this but to save $400 i will shake a bottle a few times and get a few MG of innacuracy per dose.

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cockdezl
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posted June 09, 2000 02:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cockdezl     Edit/Delete Message
GYMRAT, I should have been more clear. I did not advocate injecting Winny that was dissolved in ethanol. This was for dissolving and drinking. People have to remember that the Winny that they buy for injection has been processed to be a suspension. They did not just throw Winny powder into water filled vials and shake. i think that doing just that would make a big mess.

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blumstng17
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posted June 09, 2000 03:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blumstng17   Click Here to Email blumstng17     Edit/Delete Message
So guys......what is the final decision.....would simply mixing it in a bottle be the way to go, or would that waste alot...?

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BehindYA
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posted June 09, 2000 03:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BehindYA   Click Here to Email BehindYA     Edit/Delete Message
i whould take it oral
buy a weight
here is the adresse
www.acculab.com

one of these

Acculab VI-1mg $400.00 offering 1mg accuracy.
Acculab VI-200 $275.00 offering 10mg accuracy.

the both weigths are expensive but it is good in long time saving money

did i hear a thank u ?

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got big?
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posted June 09, 2000 03:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for got big?   Click Here to Email got big?     Edit/Delete Message
this topic was started because we DIDN'T want to buy a MG scale and were persuing the other options. Yes spending $275 and getting the cheapest mg scale would work but $275 can buy a lot of stuff...

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pillboy
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posted June 09, 2000 06:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pillboy   Click Here to Email pillboy     Edit/Delete Message
Of course its not water soluble but thats how winny v comes, like it or not. Why do you think it has to be shaken before you draw it up to inject. Go to the pharmacy and ask for a 100ml sterile bottle. They will give you the red plastic bottle that they put cough syrup in, and yes its sterile...not that it matters. Fuck spending 300 on a scale, or get animals kit and inject. 100ml of water and 5g of winny thats 50mg/ml its perfect.

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aahepp
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posted June 09, 2000 11:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aahepp   Click Here to Email aahepp     Edit/Delete Message
On the measuring your on your own. For taking it you can place it under your tounge and let it disolve. Better then hitting the digestive track. Underneath of the tounge is very transdermal. Meaning shit passes through it quickly. Nitro under the tounge for heart attack. I think we got something there. You people are alwasy wanting to inject your homemade brew into your body. Cock...there is water based steroids on the market. Whinny does come in a water based. The reason water is not prefered is that the transport time of water is short. Where oil is a longer lasting solution. I believe my chemisty is correct.

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