posted June 06, 2000 01:55 PM         

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i'm going to go party in ibiza, spain for ten days at the end of the month.
i'm already below 5%BF, but plan to get under 4% by then.
i was thinking about taking 500mg of sustenon before leaving to help me keep my weight after all the x-ing and dancing!!
do you guys think this will make me retain water and make me smooth, or will all the sweating at the beach keep it in check?
i've been busting my ass to get ripped for this, i don't want water retention to ruin it all.

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posted June 06, 2000 02:07 PM            

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I don't think the estrogen buildup is big enough to make you bloat after only one week.
If your in doubt, bring along enough proviron for your trip. 1 tab a day will do the trick, and it'll give you a major hardon even when your soaking in alcohol! Have fun!

JR

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posted June 06, 2000 02:07 PM         

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I wouldn't use sustenon if you are worried about holding water and want drop body fat. Eq or winny would be a better choice.

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posted June 06, 2000 02:10 PM            

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I would agree with thickdog, you may or may not pending on how your body handles water retention.only you would know that.

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posted June 06, 2000 02:11 PM         

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thick dog..
i already AM taking eq and winny besides a little of sostenon.
i was thinking of discontinuing the sostenon before i hit the beach, but i was just thinking that i'm going to be partying like crazy and would like to have a long-acting test in my system to help me out.

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posted June 06, 2000 02:13 PM            

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take some water pills witchya....

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posted June 06, 2000 02:15 PM         

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If you keep the sustenon, make sure you have some antiestrogens around and drink 2 gallons of water a day. I am in my last week of test on my current cycle and holding a ton of water. I have found that glycerol provides some temporary relief.

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posted June 06, 2000 02:59 PM            

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At 500mg I don't think the Water Retention will be that bad.

Drink tons of water, the sun will bake lots of it off (sweat).

If possible take in low sodium and low carbs this will help.

Don't take any diuretics, the booze is alread a diuretic and you could end up severly depleted.

[This message has been edited by DREXX (edited June 06, 2000).]

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posted June 06, 2000 03:02 PM            

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As 2thick and drexx said, low sodium intake and lots of water, no diuretics. You'll already be dehydrated with the booze and especially the E.

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posted June 06, 2000 03:05 PM            

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Sorry on the last post, thickdog, not 2thick. Read the post quick.

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posted June 06, 2000 03:15 PM            

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Let me start by saying I don't intend to flame, only to provoke some thought.

If you have enough dedication to the sport and your body to take AS, why would you consume alcohol or use drugs that go against what you're working so hard for? It just doesn't make any sense to me.

To answer your question regarding water retention, sust will make you retain water. You can try to counter that with diuretics, but I would only resort to that if you have some health concern (blood pressure). Otherwise I would save the gear for a time when you will be more dedicated to putting it to good use. I don't ever use AS to help maintain.......I use them to build and grow. You can maintain by adhering to strict diet and training.

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posted June 06, 2000 03:26 PM            

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If you are going to party all day and night (Ibiza is know for that) then don't take any roid. You will be drinking all day in the hot sun. Changes are you are going to get sick. Why not take your last shot of Sust a week or two before leaving and stop. Sust is long acting enough.

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posted June 06, 2000 04:14 PM         

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Im not too sure on this, but I thought that the leaner you are, the less water your gonna hold. If he's at 5% now and plans on being at 4% when he goes, I dont think the sust. will bring on any dramatic changes as far as water retention goes at that low of bodyfat %. ,,,, But I could be wrong. Opinions?

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posted June 06, 2000 04:38 PM         

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ssman..
i like to think that i have plenty of dedication to the sport. i have been EXTREMELY dedicated, especially lately since i am training for a show.
i understand what you are saying, and i like to take AS to grow too, but i also take them to maintain, especially while dieting - and believe me, it helps.
i have been looking forward to this trip for a long time and i plan to party a whole lot. i just wanted to look good and try not to loose too much size. i'm sure you can understand..

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posted June 06, 2000 06:25 PM            

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dont forget to go gear shopping while there!

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posted June 06, 2000 06:31 PM            

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Decibel......I understand and I'm not trying to put you down or disrespect you in any way. You're part of the family All I'm saying is that for your trip I would not take any type of AS. Play, party, have a great time.......life isn't worth living without taking time to enjoy. Take a mild diuretic 3 times per day before you leave......you can get them from health food stores. Save the AS for a time when you can really hit hard and devote yourself entirely to your body. Whatever you decide.....good luck, and have a great time!!

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posted June 06, 2000 06:55 PM            

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Bros, I don't mean to disrespect anyone, but taking a diuretic before drinking heavily and taking E-bombs is a terrible idea. With E alone, dehydration is a big problem.

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posted June 07, 2000 09:59 AM         

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thanks a lot for everybody's advice. yeah, it does seem like a family!!
xtreemerush..
what kind of gear is available there? is any of it worth the risk of bringing back?

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