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13Special
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted May 31, 2000 09:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 13Special   Click Here to Email 13Special     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 73325483
I want 20 pounds in 3 months, what is best to take? I need it for the upcoming football season. I am new at this, and any direction would be greatly appreciated. [email protected]

Thanx

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matty
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posted May 31, 2000 09:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for matty   Click Here to Email matty     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 74082278
food & protein .....

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blkLotus
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posted May 31, 2000 10:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blkLotus   Click Here to Email blkLotus     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 11023347
You really need more info. for a quality answer, that is. How long have you been working out, how much do you weigh, body fat etc...

gaining 20 lbs is not that difficult. the hard part is keeping it.


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13Special
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posted May 31, 2000 10:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 13Special   Click Here to Email 13Special     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 73325483
I am 18, and 180 pounds. I work out every day, but not super hard. I begin hard lifting in a week, and wanted something to help me along.

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beastmasster
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posted May 31, 2000 11:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for beastmasster   Click Here to Email beastmasster     Edit/Delete Message
work out "super hard" then come back in 3 years. Most of us waited at least this long with serious training before thinking about AS. Do you eat 6 times a day? Drink a gallon of water a day at least? How about creatine, glutamine, vitc,e,a, 300g+ protein a day, keep track of your workouts in a log book, train smart and recover, stay out late and not get enough sleep??????? Answer these and look at your current program/lifestyle. At 18 you could probably gain 30 pounds and keep it all naturally if you get some smarts and dedicate yourself to lifting, growing, and football.

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krzysiu013
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posted May 31, 2000 11:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for krzysiu013   Click Here to Email krzysiu013     Edit/Delete Message
youll wreck yourself wait until atleast 22.

chris

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Diver
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posted May 31, 2000 11:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diver   Click Here to Email Diver     Edit/Delete Message
ref-b & sus

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Rich1
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posted May 31, 2000 11:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rich1   Click Here to Email Rich1     Edit/Delete Message
Dude don't fuck this up your right at the age where you don't need gear, no matter what you think, I know where your coming from, I used to dirt bike alot when I was your age, best shape I was ever in my life, till now, but I'm 44 now and now to even break the plateu I was at, juice is what it takes after 4 years of lifting, your not there bro and count your blessings, I only do a cycle three times a year, and may knock that back to 2 times. I'll bet there are US senators who use more then me, and house rep's who do too, but politcians are infamous to say do as I say, not as I do... Fuckers...I'd like to see a drug bill that tests every single state, federal, county, and city employee for any type of illegal drugs and even prescription drugs just to set the record straight...Then throw them out of office if caught..and into drug treatment too max out their exposure to the media and general public. Hey Diver, so am I, here's to the deep blue sea bro...

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BigT
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posted May 31, 2000 11:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BigT   Click Here to Email BigT     Edit/Delete Message
Bro....to answer your post, D-Bol, Sustanon, or Omnadrene will blow you up quick....BUT at 18 years old you will fill out and by the time you're 21 or 22 will be 30 pounds heavier than you are now....just work out hard as balls, and eat 6-8 meals a day, take a good weight gain powder, and don't even think about using roids until you are into your 20's at the very least.

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13Special
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posted June 01, 2000 09:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 13Special   Click Here to Email 13Special     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 73325483
bump

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BrickWall
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posted June 01, 2000 10:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BrickWall   Click Here to Email BrickWall     Edit/Delete Message
hold out bro....I waited till I was 23 to be safe... I recommend the same bro!
I am still hesatant when I put the needle in. Hold on for 4 more year at least. if any thing use androstine and creatine! Stay away from the juice for now!
-BW

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BigGuns2
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posted June 01, 2000 11:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BigGuns2   Click Here to Email BigGuns2     Edit/Delete Message
Listen to the bros here. You are too young at 18. Until you have worked out super hard for a few years you shouldn't even think about gear. Even when you are on gear you still have to work out very hard for them to work and get the results that you want.

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GearHead WannaBe
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posted June 01, 2000 01:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GearHead WannaBe     Edit/Delete Message
listen to beastmaster and the other respondents. if you take gear now, you'll be 23 years old, 5 foot 8 inches tall, bald, etc., you've got all the building blocks you need running through your veins right now. Gear will merely shut them off too soon. It would be a big mistake, for which you'll pay for the rest of your life (gees, that sounds ominous). I don't mean to scare you and I'm not speaking from personal experience, but even as a newbie, I've read a lot of posts and you really should wait. Anything you can get OTC, on the other hand, may help you out and won't harm you like AS would at your age... Just my 1/50th of a dollar.

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Busy_Mind
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posted June 01, 2000 01:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Busy_Mind   Click Here to Email Busy_Mind     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 5850712
Not much older than you bro! Be smart, and do your research before coming on a board like this and looking down the steroid "route". At 18, gdamn I was making the best fucking pumps naturally in the gym, not even steroids could top that anabolic effect I had working out intense like that all the time. All you want now, is a great fucking diet and a quality protein powder on the side also, not to mention some really good workout routines everytime you hit the weight! Steroids are an "assist" something you won't need or want til your alittle bit older! Take it from me and the rest of the bros here....be safe! oh yeah...and smart too!

~BM~

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Steelheart
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posted June 01, 2000 01:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Steelheart   Click Here to Email Steelheart     Edit/Delete Message
2 servings of cell tech
4 servings of meso tech
stack anateston, norteston, acetabolan 2.
Isnt it obvious by now? Look at Greg Kovacks.

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George Spellwin
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posted June 01, 2000 02:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for George Spellwin   Click Here to Email George Spellwin     Edit/Delete Message
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tom659
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posted June 01, 2000 02:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tom659     Edit/Delete Message
BUMP

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dirkpitt
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posted June 01, 2000 02:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dirkpitt     Edit/Delete Message
13Special,
Listen to what these guys are saying! They're right. I was a scrawny 160lb at 5'10" in high school my senior year of football. By the time I graduated I was 180lb. I hit the weights hard after the season and during college, no A/S. By the time I was 21 1/2 I was a lean 200lb. Work your ass off in the gym, you'll see results. Remember, train heavy and you will grow.

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GROWTH
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posted June 01, 2000 02:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GROWTH   Click Here to Email GROWTH     Edit/Delete Message
Dude you could listen to these guys if you want to and not take juice but my guess is that your playing high school football and you want to tear shit up this year. Your probably a senior right? Well if you are and you want to be juiced up for the 2000 season go for it!!!! I did it last year!!!

Shit man me and my boyz in high school did our first cycle at 18 right before our senior year, all the seniors before us did the same thing and we won 2 state titles, when we were the seniors we went 11-0 and also won the state title for the 3rd year in a row.

Trust me bro there is no better feeling in the world then winning a state championship and having some cheerleader suck your dick at the victory party.

This is what me and my crew did....

Deca @ 200mg per week for 10 weeks
Test @ 400mg per week for 10 weeks
Have some clomid on hand also.
Make sure that you eat and sleep right and take creatine also when the cycles is over.

This should get you good for the summer sessions - some of the bros on this board might not agree with me but dude if your state champ contender fuck it and go for it!

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BumRush
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posted June 01, 2000 02:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BumRush     Edit/Delete Message
13special,

T200=600mg for 8 weeks
deca200=400mg for 8 weeks
eq=300mg for 6 weeks

if you have some andriol 50, throw it in there as well.

later bro

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George Spellwin
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posted June 01, 2000 03:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for George Spellwin   Click Here to Email George Spellwin     Edit/Delete Message
Try sticking with the low androgenic steroids like Deca, Winny, etc. I would avoid the testosterones in your case.

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Big j XL
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posted June 01, 2000 03:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Big j XL     Edit/Delete Message
3% Milk- 10 gallons per day

4lbs of butter per day


Obviously you have no idea what you are talking about if you are asking those types of questions.

Go do some research.

Read this board and any books you can get your hands on. Read about diet and nutrition and then someday you will be able to answer your own question.

With such little knowledge about juice, doing a cycle now would be a big waste.

If you are new to the game you could put on 20lbs in 3 months naturally no problem!!.

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charlie
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posted June 01, 2000 03:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie   Click Here to Email charlie     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 70980501
keep taking creatine.
it reprograms your liver and slows your metabolism up!
iit could help you with as much as 10 pound a year in good weight!

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LivLarge
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posted June 01, 2000 07:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LivLarge   Click Here to Email LivLarge     Edit/Delete Message
Dude i know how you feel about the state championships. i was there two years ago and won it for the sec year straight. there is no better feeling but steriods at 18 is not smart i knew some guys the got fucked up and couldnt play. They were tested! Dont take the chance especially if its your senior year. Train hard and take creatine, eat a ton of protein and you'll grow. Get intense on the field. Trust me it will be better knowing you did it without out help from steriods, you still have alot to grow.
Of course this is just my 2 cents worth!

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Bossman
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posted June 01, 2000 08:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bossman     Edit/Delete Message
Dude, I know it's not what you want to hear, but wait til you're in your early 20's. I graduated at 5'11'' and 135, played flanker and we lost in the state championship game. Now I'm 175 at 23 and just started my first AS cycle. Get the protein powder and some creatine and you should be able to put on a good ten pounds with the right diet. I know it's hard dude, I've been there.

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Brutis
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posted June 01, 2000 08:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brutis   Click Here to Email Brutis     Edit/Delete Message
Hey, honest truth, when I was 18 I was 110 lbs and I was lifting and eating everything in sight. Wait. Trust all these other guys. I was able to add 40 lbs naturally in 4 years. I'm almost 30 now, and I still question sometimes if I'm ready to juice, or if there's something left in me naturally. Currently 160 @ about 11-12%. Hang in there dude, and eat like a MF. You'll get there.

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delts
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posted June 01, 2000 08:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for delts   Click Here to Email delts     Edit/Delete Message
Well everything has been covered here.....the only thing I would add is that you do need to design a workout program that includes several sets to FAILURE! If you're not working out "superhard" as you say, then you'll never get to where you want to be no matter what you put in your body. Good luck.

delts

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