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BehindYA
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posted May 30, 2000 06:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BehindYA   Click Here to Email BehindYA     Edit/Delete Message
1. i want to gain HARD muscle, whould deca do the the trick , or any other drug (be spesf.) ?

2. i want to straighten up my back what kind of exersice do you guys prefere


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the mechanic
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posted May 30, 2000 06:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for the mechanic   Click Here to Email the mechanic     Edit/Delete Message
What the f@#$ !!
What is going on here lately ?

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beastmasster
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posted May 30, 2000 07:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for beastmasster   Click Here to Email beastmasster     Edit/Delete Message
Do you mean that you want to get hard, such as "He's hard as nails!" or you just want muscle, plain and simple???
Also, what do you mean "straighten up your back"? You gotta give us more than this man

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Checkmatebloated
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posted May 30, 2000 07:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Checkmatebloated   Click Here to Email Checkmatebloated     Edit/Delete Message
Man if you back is not straight you might try a doc first!

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BIGBADFKR
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posted May 30, 2000 08:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BIGBADFKR     Edit/Delete Message
hahahaha

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BehindYA
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posted May 31, 2000 07:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BehindYA   Click Here to Email BehindYA     Edit/Delete Message
FUCK YOU GUYS
if you really think again u ll understand me
there are so many words that i cannot say in english
iv got a woord book (transelator) beside me here so that i ll try to speak as clean as possible

straighten up my back means what i am saying and if ya dont understand that then maybe ya should go to school

my back is kinda un pleasant crooked

of course me back is stright but when i walk its more like the ringer in nottredam

i cant explain this better
so please f"#�%& answer my f"#�%& question
without this f"#�%& diss of my writing

i need to know the best way to train my back muscles

understand now ?????????????????

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thiassi
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posted May 31, 2000 08:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for thiassi   Click Here to Email thiassi     Edit/Delete Message
I think they understood, but you still need to see a doctor before working out if you have back problems. After you have been to a doctor you could try; Hyperextions would be best for your lower back. But really go to the doctor before you fuck your back up for good. I wouldn't take any roids until you have the strength in your back to perform the complex moves like squats, dead lift, and cleans etc...So what is your first language?

L8R

[This message has been edited by thiassi (edited May 31, 2000).]

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BehindYA
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posted May 31, 2000 09:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BehindYA   Click Here to Email BehindYA     Edit/Delete Message
i give up
you guys dont understand me
and i cannot explain
!"#�%&/()==========)))))&/


BABY GIVE IT UP GIVE IT UP BABY GIVE IT U UP

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SHREDDED
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posted June 01, 2000 01:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SHREDDED     Edit/Delete Message
what language do you speak?

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R1J79X
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posted June 01, 2000 01:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for R1J79X   Click Here to Email R1J79X     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 67060558
geek go ask your mommy why your back dont work fukin gimp hahahaha

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RaverDude
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posted June 01, 2000 01:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RaverDude   Click Here to Email RaverDude     Edit/Delete Message
start with HYPEREXTENTIONS lightly twice a week, then when the muscles hardened up a bit add some weight to the exercise and do them once a week. After about two months of training your lower back muscles, try the good-morning exercise. Dont do any squat or deadlifts without a belt and use light weights.

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glenbenton
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posted June 01, 2000 01:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for glenbenton   Click Here to Email glenbenton     Edit/Delete Message
i think he speaks out of his ass

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mack
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posted June 01, 2000 03:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mack     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Behindya,
I am not one to usually bitch about stupid posts, even though it has been the trend lately. I know everyone has to start somewhere, but YOU REALLY FUCKING SUCK!!!! You must have had 5 stupid posts in the last week (look it up guys). Then after you ask some guys for help with a question, you decide to flame all of them. You are a newbie like me and you should respect them, becuase they can help you tremendously, and I think you nee to read the newbie post again and get your head out of your ass, that might straighten your back out bitch!!!

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bigrand
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posted June 01, 2000 03:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bigrand   Click Here to Email bigrand     Edit/Delete Message
i agree fully with mack. The people on this board will help you if you ask good reasonable questions and explain you question fully. When you said straighten back, we all think back is crooked. You should have said BUILD BACK and you would have been answered. DOnt fuckin flame people who try to help, but only flame the fucks that flame you for bad reasons. Chill a bit too. Once you loose it like you did, it opens the gates for mad ass flaming

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freak_24/7
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posted June 01, 2000 03:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for freak_24/7   Click Here to Email freak_24/7     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 53247122
im not gonna flame you because you don't speak english
you might have scolliosus (or however the fuck you spell it)
you should see a doctor and a trainer

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thiassi
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posted June 01, 2000 03:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for thiassi   Click Here to Email thiassi     Edit/Delete Message
What language do you speak?
Que es la lengua a que puedes hablar?

I think most of the languages are covered on this board. If you would perfer to speak in your language than please do. I bet someone here can read it.

L8R
Hey freak why do you have a flower on your post?

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scott825
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posted June 01, 2000 04:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for scott825   Click Here to Email scott825     Edit/Delete Message
why dont you take your back to a doctor
so he can fix it

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AY
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posted June 01, 2000 05:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AY   Click Here to Email AY     Edit/Delete Message
If you have back problems, try seeing a chiropractor. They can do miracles with their adjustments sometimes. The rest of the bros are right in recommending hyperextensions.

If it's imbalance in muscles, your back can probably be fixed by exercise. But if it's your bone structure, a doctor is the best solution.

To get 'hard', I suggest using something like equipoise. It'll harden you up and you'll get fantastic pumps when you train.

AY

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BehindYA
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posted June 01, 2000 06:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BehindYA   Click Here to Email BehindYA     Edit/Delete Message
damn you guys
IT ISNT SOMETHING WRONG WITH MY BACK !!!!!!!
it just isnt strong enough

and you thiassi

da fila da puta
weiche fude waga bondo

Go fuck your self

and all other NEWBIES
I AM NOT A FUCKING NEWBIE
I AM A FUCKING MEDECIN/STUDENT

and all you guys sets your self in a BAD BAD light
when talking to foreign people like that

SUCK MY DUCK

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ozzymandius
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posted June 01, 2000 07:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozzymandius   Click Here to Email ozzymandius     Edit/Delete Message
OK LET'S TONE IT DOWN A LITTLE.

TRY SOME HYPER XTZ AND DEADLIFTS- MAKE SURE TO SQUEEZE THAT BUTT AT THE END.TRY YOGA (DON'T LAUGH)
AZ FOR JUICE
FINA
HALO
WINNY
NO WECAN ALL BE CALMMM

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thiassi
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posted June 01, 2000 07:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for thiassi   Click Here to Email thiassi     Edit/Delete Message
What the fuck is wrong with you! Goddamn, people try to help you and your stupid fucked up ass can only bitch! Well suck my dick motherfucker! I don't know what language you tried to speak, what are you from Italy? I don't think anybody here will help your stupid ass and I don't for one minute think your "FUCKING MEDECIN/STUDENT" because your not smart enough!

You can post what you want because I'm not going to ever look at another one of your posts!

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ozzymandius
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posted June 01, 2000 08:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozzymandius   Click Here to Email ozzymandius     Edit/Delete Message
BONGDIDIDONGBANNANANFANNAPONG
ONLY GOD KNOWZ
WHAT THE HELL THAT MEANZ

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happymf'er
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posted June 01, 2000 08:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for happymf'er   Click Here to Email happymf'er     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah suck my duck!! hahahahhahahahahahaha
Holy shit that was fucking hillarious!!!!!!!!
It's DICK you butt pirate!!!!!!

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Thick dog
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posted June 01, 2000 12:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Thick dog     Edit/Delete Message
As for hardening drugs, Eq, Deca, primo, winny and parabolan are all good. As for strengthening your lower back, hyperextensions and stiff legged deadlifts are good.

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Badatta2d
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posted June 01, 2000 12:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Badatta2d     Edit/Delete Message
Ha ha great post. This is the funniest I have seen in a while. Way to let him have it guys. Love how he can't speaka da english but he spells Fuck You so effortlessly.
Say what you want but sometimes it takes posts and replies like this to allieviate the stress of a day..

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MrMuscle
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posted June 01, 2000 12:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MrMuscle   Click Here to Email MrMuscle     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 70512967
hmm..not funny...i suggest we try and help the guy out, NOT mock him. its not easy when english neithr is your first or second language.

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ryry
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posted June 01, 2000 01:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ryry   Click Here to Email ryry     Edit/Delete Message

ok i know theres a language barrier here and i understand where he is coming from. when you say "straighten up my back ", do you mean you want a stronger back, or that your back is sort of crooked. if you want a stronger back do pull ups up the ass. if you want to straighten your back(I think thats how you spell it) go see a doctor or chiropractor, might be a posture problem or something...

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Gilbyag
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posted June 01, 2000 02:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gilbyag     Edit/Delete Message
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

IM FUK'N ROLL'N HERE!!!!!

FUNNY SHIT!!!

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BehindYA
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posted June 01, 2000 03:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BehindYA   Click Here to Email BehindYA     Edit/Delete Message
happyymf er i guess i said duck just to TRY to be funny but hell no

suck my Duck

i thinks its cool

the reason i get suck my duck from is when a friend of mine where going to write some rap songs in english and he wrote SUCK MY DUCK in stead of dick and i just thought it was funny

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Vlad67
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posted June 01, 2000 03:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vlad67   Click Here to Email Vlad67     Edit/Delete Message
i would agree.... my back does get a little straighter while im getting my dick sucked....but if you are soliciting any of us to do it i think you came to the wrong board...

VK

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glenbenton
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posted June 01, 2000 06:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for glenbenton   Click Here to Email glenbenton     Edit/Delete Message
im calling immigration on this peice of trash

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AY
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posted June 01, 2000 09:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AY   Click Here to Email AY     Edit/Delete Message
WTF???? I posted a nice response hoping it will help him and I get his fucked up response about him not being a MEDECIN STUDENT and some other crap like that. Well SUCK MY DUCK TOO MF'ER and while you're at it, choke on my clomid-enlarged balls!!!

AY

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RaverDude
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posted June 02, 2000 12:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RaverDude   Click Here to Email RaverDude     Edit/Delete Message
ahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaahah....this is too funny.

<<<<<<<<<<EAT SLEEP LIFT>>>>>>>>>>

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BIG RICK ROCK
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posted June 02, 2000 12:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BIG RICK ROCK   Click Here to Email BIG RICK ROCK     Edit/Delete Message

WHAT LENGUAGE DO YOU SPEAK???
PLEASE TELL US WHAT LEGUAGE YOU SPEAK I KNOW THERE IS SOMEBODY HERE WHO SPEAKS YOUR LENGUAGE AND CAN HELP YOU OUT,

HABLA SPANOL????

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GEERHED
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posted June 02, 2000 12:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GEERHED   Click Here to Email GEERHED     Edit/Delete Message
I think this guy is Vietnamese.
Seriously.

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goleafs
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posted June 03, 2000 11:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for goleafs   Click Here to Email goleafs     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 64961519
if you really are a "MEDECIN/STUDENT" then fix your own fucking back , and as far as getting "HARD" with gear , dont waste your time , the chicks wont even give your retarted ass a chance. Eat a dick.

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NoviceJuicer
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posted June 03, 2000 11:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NoviceJuicer     Edit/Delete Message
I am going to act as if this is a real post and try to answer it....

if your back is bent like the bell ringer (Hunchback of NotreDame) then you upper back is rounded forward. Hyperextensions are not the answer as they strengthen the extensors of the LOWER back - the erector spinae.

The muscles of the upper back need to be strengthened to prevent rounding forward of the shoulder blades and upper thoracic vertebrae. This will include the serratus posterior inferior, the rhomboids, and the lower third of the trapezius (as the traps are devided into thirds). These will adduct the shoulder blades and pull them back and down. Also believe it or not we are also looking at the posterior (rear) muscles of the neck. When the neck gets weak it allows the head to extend/droop/hang forward which pulls the upper back forward. It would be like taping a 10 LB weight to your forehead. In fact this is an exercise some Chiropractors do to correct this anterior (forward) head lean. The have a head harness that attaches a weight to the forehead, the body tries to pull the head back, and it ends up strengthening the correct muscles so that after a few weeks the head is carried in a more upright position. Avoid neck bridges like wrestlers do as it can really dmamge the neck if you are not really prepared. You can also put a ball against the wall and press your head backwards into it - the ball should be soft like a kickball and not hard.

Rows could be good. Seated long pulls trying to keep your elbows close to the body with a slight hyperextension movement of the spine will help.

Also it may not be a matter of muscle weakness but OVERLY TIGHT muscles. If your pectoral (chest) muscles are too tight it will pull your scapulae (shoulder blades) forward and round the upper back like the hunch back. This is real common with male gymnasts - really strong and fit but they are really rounded as they have overly developed pecs quite often. Stretching the pecs out helps allow the back and shoulder blades return to a more healthy curve.

I hope this helps you out Quasimodo

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BehindYA
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posted June 03, 2000 12:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BehindYA   Click Here to Email BehindYA     Edit/Delete Message
thanks man this really really helped me alot

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NoviceJuicer
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posted June 03, 2000 12:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NoviceJuicer     Edit/Delete Message
One other thought - the problem of rounded shoulders or hunched back can start low. Its what I call the leaning tower of Pizza syndrome - everyone look at the top of the leaning tower of Pizza but the top is only off kilter because of the weak foundation.

With rounded shoulders some of the foundational problems that are frequently seen are : dropped arches - the feet roll in. In normal stance the weight is distributed primarily along the outside of the foot - in this case frequently the weight is along the inside of the foot. Also the pelvis will tend to push forward. Also the legs tend to bow backwards, or the the people stand with their knees locked if not hyperextended.

One easy answer that sometimes works is arch supports, orthotics or shoes that correct for pronation (the foot rolling in). Ask a expert sports shoe salesman - he can tell you which brands correct for over pronation.
An old exercise that I like for this is "standing on the post" exercise from Tai Chi or Hsing Yi kung fu. It trains proper posture of the feet and legs and spine.

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CornFed
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posted June 03, 2000 02:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CornFed   Click Here to Email CornFed     Edit/Delete Message
DUDE LEARN TO SPEAK ENGLISH LIKE THE REST OF THE WORLD......Sorry but your fucking rude and obnoxious....

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thiassi
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posted June 03, 2000 05:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for thiassi   Click Here to Email thiassi     Edit/Delete Message
I think he only speaks english. Everyone asked him what he speaks and he only came up with some made up giberish. But some posts are something lorenzo would be proud of. I think he is just pulling our chains. He is probably from Kansas or something.

L8R

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