posted May 30, 2000 04:25 PM            

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Thanks to everyone who has responded. Since I was a newbie and NCAA D-1 pac 10 athlete I was looking for a quick answer but also watching my ass. I didn't know how secure this was. But still there is hope. I took d-bol tabs for two weeks 6 tabs a day then i got the call on a tuesday afternoon I had taken 2 tabs that day than I immediately stopped. My trainer said I had till thurs. morning. Now, I took the test and two weeks later it came up positive for the specific chemical methandienone (d-bol). I had a chance to fight it if i could find a supplement that could produce the same results. But it's too, late I got the call saying they are going to test my B sample. They will till me in a couple of days the results. The team dr. told me that they freeze the sample and retest it. I was wondering if i have a chance? AGAIN THANKS TO EVERYONE. FUCK THE NCAA. I'M PROBABLY GOING DOWN IN FLAMES AND I'LL LOSE MY SCHOLARSHIP. MY WHOLE LIFE IS GOING TO HAVE TO CHANGE. NO MORE HANDOUTS, NO MORE PUSSY, THE EASY LIFE IS GONE.

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posted May 30, 2000 05:30 PM            

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posted May 30, 2000 05:45 PM            

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That sucks big time bro I am sorry for you! One question where the hell is your coach and his staff they need to make sure their players are "taken" care of and don't get blind sided by these tests. One of my close friends plays inside LB at a western D1 school and they always know when tests are and when to come off so they don't get burned. What the fuck kind of program doesn't look out for its players that really pisses me off. I hope someone else picks you up and gives you another chance hopefully a coach that will look out for his players!

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posted May 30, 2000 06:11 PM            

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Thanks demaroid for the sympathy. I don't know why the fuck my coaches didn't help me out. I think the NCAA informs the institution only a couple of days before the test. But my coaches and team Dr.'s were really supportive they believe my story and had even given me some pointers on how to appeal the situation. FUCK THE NCAA

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posted May 30, 2000 06:26 PM            

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I have noticed that some schools are supportive of their players with juice and others arent. My school really frowns on it. It goes on, of course, like all schools, but they dont want to know about it, and if you get burned it is your ass. They dont really think that it is necessary to partake in such activities. But TONTO, I would have found a way to fix the test. I mean I would have used clorox, or I would have used someone elses sample. My two cents.

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posted May 30, 2000 07:49 PM            

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Shit I got my roids from the team doctor. I played when they had all the schools on probation, so I got fucked and ended up on an NAIA team, but thats o.k. I started my freshman year and every year after that. If you have to go to an NAIA school, the drug test there is a joke. And they still pay for everything. Hell you might have to sit out the first year and have an extra year scholarship to get your masters.

L8R

Make some damn lemonaid!

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posted May 30, 2000 08:27 PM            

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I emailed you this info...here goes again. It was rumored that the old version of Hot Stuff had dbol included. I think if it was my ass on the line, I'd but some BS product and grind up my remaining tabs and put them inside. Give them the product and claim ignorance. Its worth a shot.

BPP

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posted May 31, 2000 12:57 AM            

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Hot stuff huh. Where would you get that stuff from? Thanks for the response. I didn't get your last email.

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posted May 31, 2000 01:18 AM            

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Hot Stuff was a leagal supplement at one time, I believe it still is today. I have heard rumors about D-Bol being in there in the past as well. Try out some health food and supplement stores. I doubt GNC would carry it, but if it's legal, it's in a store somewhere. Have you looked into all of the prohormones as well...I believe nortesten shows up like you took Deca-Durabolin...look into all the Andros and that stuff...and claim ignorance all the way.

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posted May 31, 2000 01:30 AM            

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Hey man...I play NCAA ball too in the SoCo. I am in the same situation...have you heard how long it takes d-bol to get out of your system. I am home now and they cannot test me until August so I planned to get off it in early july. I am also taking t-200 and winny-v. I appreciate it if you know anything about this shit. Also I have heard that you can stick your finger in clorox bleach before you piss and then piss on your finger to fuck up the test. I have only heard of it, never tried it so it may or may not work.

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posted May 31, 2000 01:57 AM            

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I had a friend that trained with an East German sprint coach (when it was communist) who told him how they beat the test at the Olympics. They would have the athletes insert a bladder into their asses and fill them with clean urine. There was a clear tub they would run under their dicks attached to the bladder. Unless the guy taking the sample got down right on his dick they would never know.

the athlete would then bear down like he was taking a shit and fresh (body temp) piss would flow out of the end of his dick through the tub attached underneath.

they cought onto this, so now when you give a sample you have to show all sides of your thing.

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posted May 31, 2000 02:57 AM            

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I think now-a-days they can check for the clorox so I dont think that will be a problem. But the bladder thing is the best idea. In college, they dont make you drop everything, but they do watch you take the piss from behind. I have had some friends that have duck taped clean urine samples to their stomachs, with a tube coming from the package, and slept with them overnight, then in the morning when it is time to do your test, you just open it up and it sounds like your pissing and it looks like it from behind. That worked for him but it was really risky. You have to have a warm urine sample or you will automatically fail. But back to your original post, TONTO. I would say that you used tribulus. I think that if you say you used andro you might get in trouble. Andro is a banned substance, but I dont know about tribulus, actually tribulus wouldnt explain the D-bol.

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posted May 31, 2000 05:06 AM            

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hey devildogg. I've been told that oral tabs of d-bol last 3-4 days, I'm not familiar with t-2 or winny. Phatpat,Tribulus is a good idea but won't work on the test. it would show high levels of test but wouldn't help with the chemical factor

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posted May 31, 2000 11:23 AM            

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Injectable winny = 2 months
T2 and sos and cyp = 3 months
ANY d-bol = 5 weeks at least.
Test prop = 2 weeks
Test suspension = 1 week.

It's your fault you got caught, you should have done more research. You should have done the drugs over a period that you know they would not test you. Ignorance does not work, even if it was in a supplement, the NCAA does not care. If I ever get tested, I will get an "oil change." It hurts, but it is the only for sure way.

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