posted May 30, 2000 09:16 AM            

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I would like to thank everyone on this board especially El Cubano for his excellent advice. I couple of weeks ago there was a topic about gyno. From posting on that topic, I assumed that I didn't have gyno but predisposed fat distribution or something like that. Everyone had their own opinions on this topic. Most people said sugery was the only cure. El Cubano posted that taking Nolvadex and winny would reduce the puffiness to almost nothing. He was absolutely RIGHT!!! I started on Nolvadex about 4 days ago. Two 20mg tabs a day. No winny. I already notice a huge improvement in my puffy nipples!!! No bullshit!!! It really works!! I have always hated my puffy nipples and did a shitload of cardio and they were still there. I assume I got them when I was popping a million Andro pills. Never got bigger, just my nipples did!!! I was also hoping when I trimmed down, they would go away. That didn't happen either. The Nolvadex really works!!! I also noticed I am looking much more defined!!??? Is this possible?? I understand that Nolvadex is an anti-estro and it may reduce bloating. I am looking better then ever!! I can't wait to blast my receptors!!! Once again, a HUGE THANK YOU to everyone who helped. I highly suggest this to anyone who has puffy nipples.

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posted May 30, 2000 09:20 AM            

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That is very good to hear.. will have to try it very soon.. does anyone know if they will stay not puffy after stopping taking nolvadex?

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posted May 30, 2000 09:54 AM            

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Good question Schniken.

This needs a bump.

Jeff

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posted May 30, 2000 10:19 AM            

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yes you do...

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posted May 30, 2000 11:28 AM            

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how much nolvadex did you take... i have puffyness from andro as well..... going to get surgery within 4 months..... but want to get rid of it now....

what dosage??

thanks

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posted May 30, 2000 11:53 AM         

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What do yall mean "puffy". I took a but load of Andro too. I asumed I just need to get my body fat down. My nips never got sore or anything but do seem to carry a layer of fat on my pecs that I cant seem to get rid of. Maybe I should get my BF checked first. Im just curious.

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posted May 30, 2000 12:22 PM            

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if your nips are soft and puffy.... then it's prob gyno.. get it checked by ur doc... when i took andro.. i never felt anything... no itchyness, soreness.. nothing

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posted May 30, 2000 03:17 PM            

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Are you for real, dahmer, i have had puffiness as well for sometime, I have upped the cardio out the ***, gotten body fat down, etc. and nothing seems to get rid of the puffiness as you call it....if this is true I will try it in a heart beat....I have been reading this board for 6+ months and haven't posted until recently, trying to gather information and have seen conflicting information on this subject.....anyone else had these type results.....no disrespect to ya" dahmer........thanks

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posted May 30, 2000 03:24 PM            

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Where is the fat mostly distributed? I have a stubborn fat area on the outside of my pecks that won't go away. My nipples are pretty normal, maybe a little puffy. Do I have a mild case of gyno to??? I'm at 8% and the peck fat seems like it will be one of the last areas to go.

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posted May 30, 2000 03:25 PM            

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bump

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posted May 30, 2000 03:28 PM            

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hey primoman, mine is like a layer of fat across my chest.....tried everything.....was going to check into surgery.....still curious

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posted May 30, 2000 03:34 PM            

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thanks for this posting...i am also in the same boat with the puffiness in the pecs. No soreness, no swollen nips...i just assumed it was fat deposit. One question though: Will Clomid have the same results????

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posted May 30, 2000 03:44 PM            

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bump for opinion from a mod or vet

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posted May 30, 2000 03:51 PM            

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you just lost fat dude...

you didn't have gyno, you had obesity...

same with me man, I though I had boobs too, just lost some fat, and no surgey for me.
Congrats.

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posted May 30, 2000 04:17 PM            

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I knew this would cause all sorts of debate. All I know is it is working for me. RIGHT NOW!!!! Everyone seems to have their own opinions on what is gyno, what is fat, what is female pattern fat deposits. I posted about this topic many times and always got varied answers. Most agree that gyno must be operated on. I think it was Macro69 that posted about the fat deposits. This was a problem that bothered the shit out of me. I too thought it must just be FAT. I trimmed like crazy. Cardio and handfulls of Ripped Fuel or Hydroxycut. I sweated on that stupid Eliptical machine for months. And guess what?? I still had them!!! mine were not that bad. If it was cold, they were fine. When it was warm they looked shitty. They ruined how my chest looked. I am not saying I am huge and ripped but, I have a pretty decent shape. I hated having no shirt on. I was very self conscious about it. i hope I am not speaking too soon because they seem so much smaller. It really makes sense though. If you have fatty nipples and are not a lard ass, there could be a good chance that at some time there was high estrogen levels. This makes fat deposit into certain areas. Like a female. The Nolvadex binds to receptor areas. I may be wrong on this but who cares!!! It looks like it is all good from here. I am not posting this to stir up arguments. I am doing this right now and it works!! At least for me. I would like to see others try it. Other with the same symptoms as I had. I don't think I will even add the winny. I will keep posting updates. I am almost done with my first strip of 10 and could see results. I am planning to do one a day for the next 5 days and see what happens. The first five days I took 2 tabs daily.(20mg)

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posted May 30, 2000 04:22 PM            

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I am going to follow your example, if it doesn't work I have blown a few bucks, but if it does work for me then,,,,I have needed this a long time....I am 41......I am all for ya' brother, I am a mirror image of how you described yourself.....been there, still there.....not bad....but rather not have it either........good luck to ya and I will report back in 2 to 3 weeks.......If nothing else you have me excited about working on this problem again.........later

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Heyyyyyyy Ralphe boy...

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posted May 30, 2000 04:31 PM            

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Dahmer.. its great to hear your success.. gives me hope.. just curious what is your bodyfat percentage.. also please do keep us updated i am very interested in seeing your results

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posted May 30, 2000 04:34 PM            

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BF must be 10 or under. I was 16% before I started anything. I weighed between 200 and 210. I currently weigh 191 and could lift more then ever.

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posted May 30, 2000 07:38 PM            

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dude im going to my doc next week i hope i can get some armidex. thats supposed to be even stronger then nolvadex. i got the same thing from andro i hope what you're saying is true.

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posted June 02, 2000 04:21 AM            

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hey guys.... i started NOLVADEX today... going to do 2 tabs a day (total 40mgs) and see what happens.

can i take both tabs at once... or should i do one in the morning and one at night???

i'll keep u posted!

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posted June 02, 2000 08:13 AM            

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I was taking one after breakfast and one after dinner. Like I posted yesterday, it seems to have stopped working??!! I just can't understand it. They seem all puffy again!!!! I am wondering if it's just water??

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posted June 02, 2000 04:50 PM            

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just wait till it starts getting real hot outside. then youll know if you still have gyno........

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posted June 03, 2000 01:14 AM            

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so will it come back once you stop taking the novaldex

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posted June 03, 2000 01:35 AM            

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i swear you have no choice if you have real gyno, but to get surgery.........im gonna put this to a test and try this armidex stuff first

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posted June 03, 2000 04:33 PM            

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Let me know how the arimedex works if it does ill gladly spend the money to getit

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posted June 03, 2000 05:15 PM            

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If you have gyno you have gyno, I know because I went under the knife, and I exausted all other avenues, trying to find an easier way and I didn't. But the operation isn't a big deal, in and out in out in one day training chest in two weeks, everything else in one.
Will

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posted June 03, 2000 09:56 PM            

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i swear im not even on roids and my gyno is getting worse. i get deppressed when i get up in the morning and look in the mirror. i have a doctors appointment on monday, i hope the prick will recommend me to see a plastic surgen.

[This message has been edited by glenbenton (edited June 03, 2000).]

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