posted May 30, 2000 01:15 AM            

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Has anyone gained any serious wait on equip or winny alone, my buddy said he gained like 20ibs on winny himself. Has anyone had any problems with vet steroids.

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posted May 30, 2000 01:40 AM            

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Thats a lot of gains for winny. Maybe on a first cycle if the dosages are high enough. Ive never had any problems with vet stuff.

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posted May 30, 2000 01:43 AM            

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My friend gained 25lbs on whinny alone at a high dosage. It was his first cycle.

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posted May 30, 2000 01:55 AM            

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Thought you were going to bed?

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posted May 30, 2000 10:46 AM            

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All I mainly use is the vet stuff. They are in high supply here. Granted They are not as sterile as pharm products but with the right measures they are all safe. By the way Whinny at 20lbs could only be first cycle. Never get that off second or any other after the receptors are known.

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posted May 30, 2000 12:56 PM            

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Was alot of people's first cycle of winstrol that successful? Would it matter if you took another roid at a small dosage before that?

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posted May 30, 2000 03:37 PM            

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Only way to get first cycle with that results is to train, eat & sleep right. You just can't lay on your back and hope it works.

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posted May 30, 2000 05:15 PM            

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Eq or winny are only good at gaining weight on first cycle. This is only my personal exp. After doing 2 test/deca cycles I am trying a eq only. It isn't worth a @#$%. I have went up to 600mg per week and will complete a full bottle of maxigan next week. Let me tell you I have not gained *$&%. For those of you who have been reading my posts, remember I am a hard gainer. Weight does not just appear on me in any circumstances. I have worked my ass off for everything I have. I gained 40lbs naturally in 4yrs. I have added 12lbs this past year(with a little help) and I think that my body may have peaked out.

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posted May 30, 2000 05:33 PM            

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Bigger A, 40lbs of muscle in four years all natural is pretty damn good! Don't be too hard on yourself.

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posted May 30, 2000 05:42 PM            

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It just really sucks when juice doesn't help much. A cycle of juice and no strength, size or weight. Considering I haven't done anything too harsh.

I am considering Reforvit and a heavy sust cycle followed by winny.

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posted May 30, 2000 05:53 PM            

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About the vet stuff not being clean. Think about it, if you had a race horse worth 250g's, would you let someone inject it with a drug that is not sterile and would cause infections? They may not have the fda breathing down their backs, but they have the same controls as the human counterparts. At least in the US it is that way. I ahve used many a vet product and never had a problem. It has to be sterile or you kill whatever you are injecting. On a side note, since we cannot gaurantee our product is the real shit, (buying off the street for the most part) we are all taking chances that what we get never even came from a pharmecuetical company.

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posted May 30, 2000 06:01 PM            

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good point chesty,where the hell have you been?did thr job thing work out.
peace,out

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posted May 30, 2000 07:09 PM            

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My first cycle was an EQ only cycle. I gained 15 solid lbs on it. It was great for my first cycle. Then I dieted and started to cut and still am. My BF is at 5% and I kept about all my gains and strength.

I'm about to do a second cycle of EQ stacked with Halo... I will let you know how my receptors react to the second cycle. Lata

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