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 DNP working?
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bigrand Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 92) |
posted May 29, 2000 10:08 PM
  
Im now on day 7 of my 200mg/day cycle and wow, aint shit happened. No weight loss. I do admit that ive been a little lax on my diet recently, so its time to crash. Im also gonna take glutamine, arginine, lysine, and orthinine in 1 gram amounts each on an empty stomach 1/2 hour before bed to naturally increase my GH output. does anybody think that i need to up my DNP dosage. Damn man, now im gettin pissed. this shit is SUPPOSED to work...... IP: Logged |
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madbomber31 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 394) |
posted May 29, 2000 10:15 PM
i dont get some of you guys... you hear the shit works so you take it... did you read? if you did you would know that your loss isnt gonna show up till a few days after your off... then you drop a bunch of water, and boom, your five lighter... IP: Logged |
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D007 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 121) |
posted May 29, 2000 10:16 PM
Dont up the dosage just yet, that shit builds up im your system. drink helawater IP: Logged |
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bigrand Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 92) |
posted May 29, 2000 10:31 PM
look madbomber, i read almost all i can fuckin read on this shit. Actually ive gained a fuckin pound since ive started the stuff, and ive been drinking a gallon of H2O as commpared to 2 so water retention shouldnt be that bad. Ive experienced little to no sides. Hell last night i was bouncin off the fuckin walls, hardly a sign of DNP useage. Ive also read in an earlier post that someone was experiencing weight loss daily, so CHILL BRO. Dont criticise me. Im just gettin a little anxious. IP: Logged |
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ozzymandius Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 478) |
posted May 30, 2000 03:29 AM
ASK BIG MACRO BRO. SINCE THE 200 WAS HIS IDEA IT HAS GOT TO BE GOOD. JUST WAIT IT OUT AND YOU'LL SEE RESULTZ. IP: Logged |
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ectomorph Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 288) |
posted May 30, 2000 02:26 PM
Definately consult Macro " the DNP ULTRAMODERATOR!!" phage69alpha. I don't think anyone should use the stuff, and you yourself talk of lax dieting. Doing cardio?? Clen?? T4?? All much safer options. But as you've already begun get help from the expert and be careful!! ------------------ IP: Logged |
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bigrand Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 92) |
posted May 30, 2000 03:04 PM
thanx for the info guys. My diet is lax cause for awhile, i ate very little in a day. Xenadrine curbed my appitite (crash dieting a little). but now ive been eating more. Fuck that, im goin back to what lost me 25 pounds since Feb. LOW caloric intake. IP: Logged |
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Puc Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 327) |
posted May 30, 2000 05:56 PM
Took 300mg on Sunday night. 300mg 12:00 on Monday 300mg Monday night. This is my initial dosage, I will continue at 400mg/night for the rest of my cycle. I already feel the lag, and I am beginning to sweat. The purpose of doing a low-dose extended cycle of DNP is to minimize the side effects, isn't it? If I were you I'd feel happy that I didn't feel like crap. But, hey, godspeed on the Low-Cal approach. Later IP: Logged |
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Checkmatebloated Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 259) |
posted May 30, 2000 06:23 PM
Where a white shirt to the gym. A good way to tell it the crap is real. If your shirt turns yellow from the sweat. IP: Logged |
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BigCatratcho Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 380) |
posted May 30, 2000 06:57 PM
if you aren't feeling warm at all, I'd check your DNP source. by the fourth day you will have about 500mgc built up, that's enough to get some effect (yellow piss, thirst, etc) could be that your t-3 levels are too low and the therm effect has stopped. IP: Logged |
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Puc Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 327) |
posted May 30, 2000 07:03 PM
The DNP will still work even if your temp isn't high, though... Puc IP: Logged |
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bigrand Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 92) |
posted May 31, 2000 12:38 AM
my temp is still high. At work om crazy uncomfortable. I dont sweat as much in the pits as on xenadrine, but my legs, back sweat. My clothes are also warm and my pillow gets hot. My eyes are always warm to so i know its working. Oh yeah, i got it from a reliable source. We all know him here [This message has been edited by bigrand (edited May 31, 2000).] IP: Logged |
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Badtemp Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 81) |
posted May 31, 2000 05:24 AM
Its kind of hard to reach macro when he doesn't respond to his emails. IP: Logged |
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Puc Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 327) |
posted May 31, 2000 10:09 AM
He's probably busy. I can say that I came off ECA at the same time I began my first DNP cycle and did experience unorthodox results. I had the same dietary issues you mentioned. On this cycle I sweat profusely, though. Puc IP: Logged |
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Puc Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 327) |
posted May 31, 2000 07:51 PM
Just a note: I've been doing a little ECA+DNP experimentation the last few days. I have been on ECA for two weeks before starting DNP. Now, I have tried using eca along with the DNP for a couple days and I sweat profusely. On the days when I don't take ECA I don't sweat much at all. I assume this is because of the temperature drop experienced when coming of of the ECA counteracting the DNP-associated temperature raise. just me rambling ------------------ IP: Logged |
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bigrand Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 92) |
posted May 31, 2000 10:26 PM
That was my plan. While im on DNP i figure i could also use MD6 and on top of that, naturally increase my GH output by taking orthinine, arginine, lysine, and glutamine in 1 gram doses before bed on empty stomach( tip from a clinical nutritionist) I figure i can rape the shit out of the fat with this triple hit combo. Im gonna do it on my second DNP cycle. IP: Logged |
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MiracleMan Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 15) |
posted May 31, 2000 10:38 PM
I have done 2 cycles (7 days each) of DNP at 400mg per day. I was not all that impressed with the stuff. It made me tired at times and hungry like a beast. The second time I had to take Phenermine to control my appitite. I retained water, and yes, once you stop the DNP you are lighter, but the weight loss was water. If your a fat pig or just finished a Deca cycle with allot of water retention, then DNP might be for you. I have gotten better results stacking T3/Clen/ECA for fat loss. Thats my take. IP: Logged |
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supreme Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 16) |
posted June 01, 2000 01:18 AM
a good source of DNP info is at QFAC.com in the Dan archy archives (if you haven't read it already) Face it, no one would be using DNP if it wasn't for Duchaine. Also do a search at mesomorphosis.com; good article plus Lyle Macdonalds results of his DNP cycle. using a low dose DNP will cut some side effects, but you still need 30 min cardio per day and cut your calories; the MD6 should help kill hunger. don't cut carbs too low or you could get bad hypoglycemia with dizzy spells & and blurred vision. Pre bed time aminos suck, they taste like shit (except glutamine) and the studies involing GH release were all intravenous or through a food tube; oral aminos don't work (ifn they did, no one would need to buy GH)Try adding T3 to your DNP/MD6 stack it will definately help later to find T3, ask CONAN69 to point you in the righ direction IP: Logged |
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bigrand Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 92) |
posted June 01, 2000 03:25 AM
Supreme the clinical nutritionist told me it would not help me release mass amounts of GH, but a good amount for fat burning, and help building. Have you read any studies saying oral aminos raising GH levels is bullshit, im curious and would like to research the topic more on my own Thanks to all for the insightful posting IP: Logged |
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Puc Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 327) |
posted June 01, 2000 09:22 AM
mmmmm.... L-Tryptophan tastes like spicey styrofome... Puc [This message has been edited by Puc (edited June 01, 2000).] IP: Logged |
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supreme Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 16) |
posted June 01, 2000 09:57 AM
you have hit in on the head, there are no oral amino studies that show good results on fat burning. supplement companies cite research that was done with an I.v.or food tube. The only study that showed promise was in 1981 by Isidori et al. They used Arginine/Lysine pyroglutatmate but the study was on teenagers and they have high GH levels anyway I tried the Isidori formula, stopped because almost puked from the taste. If you are going to try it, you can get the aminos from Beyond A Century; they have the exact formula The only other success stoy was in Durk Pearson's book "life extension weight loss guide" His partner supposedly gained lots of muscle and lost fat on oral aminos, no on else ever got those results I could have missed some studies, do a search on med line. Also the book "grow young with HGH" is o.k. but too much empirical evidence and not enough peer reviewed research. bottom line is high dose aminos are unreliable and expensive. Stick to your DNP & MD6; add in 25-30 min cardio at 80% of your max HR and get some T3, its cheaper than aminos and IT WORKS! good luck, keep the DNP info coming. Stating my next DNP/T3 cycle Sunday, also adipokinetix works as well as MD6 and is cheaper. IP: Logged |
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