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LivLarge
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posted May 29, 2000 07:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LivLarge   Click Here to Email LivLarge     Edit/Delete Message
I heard that eq and deca were closely related from a friend. He said that eq is not as hard on your dick as deca is but that it is hard on your liver i think. so what is the difference between the two and which would be better for gaining size with sonme cut.Please help! Thanks.

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Bhart89
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posted May 29, 2000 07:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bhart89   Click Here to Email Bhart89     Edit/Delete Message
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I have seen this question asked several times and haven't seen a answer to it. I believe that they are similiar in the fact that they both work by increasing protein synthesis but are different because EQ converts to test and deca to nor test. I might be wrong about this though. If anyone knows please share the info...

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matty
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posted May 29, 2000 07:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for matty   Click Here to Email matty     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 74082278
eq is not hard on the liver at all but here is some profiles for you to learn for yourself!!!

1) Deca-Durabolin is highly anabolic and only moderately androgenic. It works by promoting a positive nitrogen balance in the body, which causes the muscles to be able to use more protein, more efficiently than normal. It does this by causing the muscle cells to store more nitrogen than they are releasing. With this positive nitrogen balance, the muscle cells will be able to use more protein than they usually can. If you don't eat and sleep enough though, the magic will not happen.

It takes three days after injection to dissipate from the site and stays active in the body for about 17 days. Gains will go away very slowly after the cycling period if workouts are kept intense. Deca is the worst steroid that you can take if you run the chance of being drug tested. People have been known to test positive up to 1 1/2 years after the last shot. This is a very long time. Keep this in mind if you are in the NCAA or some other organization where you run the risk of being tested.

Side Effects:
Deca-Durabolin is a relatively safe steroid. Typically, you can expect a little minor acne, higher blood pressure that causes a longer time period for blood to clot, headaches, and increased libido. Any of the following are also possible though: nausea, leukopenia, symptoms resembling a peptic ulcer, acne, edema (water retention), excitation (commonly referred to as roid rage), sleeplessness, chills, vomiting, diarrhea, hypertension, prolonged blood clotting time, increase in libido. Females had reported: menstrual irregularities, post-menopausal bleeding, swelling of the breasts, hoarseness or deepening of the voice, enlargement of the clitoris, and water retention. Men had reported: cases of impotence, chronic priapism, epididymitis, inhibition of testicular function, oligospermia, and bladder irritability.

Effective Dose:
400 - 600 mgs/week. Some people say you can get away with less but I have not found that to be true at least with myself. It is easy on you, so I would tend to go the extra mile and take a little more when I can find it.

Street Price:
$40 per 2 cc. vial at 200 mg. / cc. This steroid is without a doubt the most common one that is counterfeited. You need to check for all the telltale signs, like being able to twist the metal top; you should not be able to turn it by hand if it is real.
You should not be able to scratch the label off easily with your fingernail either. Another common trick is the date. It should be obviously stamped on the bottle. Commonly, counterfeits have the expiration date printed on the label in the same color ink as the rest of the label. It can be black but you can tell a stamp from something that was printed on the label at the same time the label was made. There is usually a dull area on the label where the date is to be stamped as well. Look for it. If it passes all of these tests, it is probably real. There are good counterfeits that will pass all these tests though, so keep that in mind. Just use your head and you should be fine most of the time.
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Stacking Info:
Deca-Durabolin is the "jack of all trades" when it comes to steroids. This is "the steroid" to stack with others. I am convinced that using deca with other drugs is where the term "stacking" originally came from. Deca is typically stacked with many things like dianabol, any of the various testosterones, sostanon 250, anadrol 50, etc, etc for adding large amounts of muscle mass. It can be taken along with anavar, masteron, parabolan, primobolan, etc. if you are looking to add better quality muscle that will stay with you longer and make you look harder since you will have less of the water retention associated with the dbols and testosterones.

2)Equipoise is very common in the precontest arena for two main reasons. First off, there is a low amount of aromitization and secondly there is very little water retention while taking equipoise. This makes equipoise a good precontest steroid. Equipoise is well known to give a good increase in the pumps you get while working out. This is caused from the increase in red blood cells that you will experience while taking this steroid. Equipoise is also well known to help cause a dramatic increase in appetite. When taken with a good mass building steroid like dianabol, this is a sure formula for successful gains in muscle
mass.
Description:
50 mgs. / cc. 10, 50, 100, and 250! cc. vials. Boldenone undecyclenate is a very popular steroid. This steroid is only available legally at a veterinarian clinic. Equipoise is a highly anabolic, moderately androgenic steroid. For this very reason, it is typically taken in a stack with other steroids like testosterone if you are on a mass cycle or perhaps with winstrol if you are on a cutting cycle. The main benefit of taking equipoise is that it increases protein synthesis in the muscle cells. This effect is very similar to what you would experience while taking anavar. Equipoise gives you slower but much more high quality gains in muscle as opposed to the normal "quick" muscle gains that you would expect from a testosterone. This is not a steroid to take on its own and expect 20 lbs. in 6 weeks. It is just not going to happen. You can expect around 3 weeks before you start seeing results and they are not going to be staggering, but will be "more permanent" than any gains you would get from any of the multiple testosterones that are available. This steroid stays active in the system longer than most of the testosterones as well. This makes equipoise a poor choice if you run the possibility of being drug tested.
Side Effects:
This list by no means states that you will get all these side effects, but there is a possibility to get any or several of these side effects. I continually get emails requesting to know the side effects that are possible, so here is the list of possible side effects. Equipoise is generally a little safer to take than the testosterones, but you will tend to feel ill for a few days after injection. This ill feeling is similar to flu-like symptoms and will go away after a few days. This side effect is similar to what people feel when taking Sustanon 250 as well. Other known side effects consist of: nausea, leukopenia, symptoms resembling a peptic ulcer, acne, excitation (commonly referred to as roid rage), sleeplessness, chills, vomiting, diarrhea, hypertension, prolonged blood clotting time, increase in libido. Females had reported: menstrul irregularities, post-menopausal bleeding, increased sex drive, swelling of the breasts, hoarseness or deepening of the voice, and enlargement of the clitoris. Men had reported: acne, gynocomastia, and increased aggression.
Effective Dose:
150 - 300 mgs. / week. Equipoise shots are typically taken twice a week.


IN MY OPION DEPENDING ON WHAT YOU WHAT TO DO, YOU WILL PROBABLY GAIN MORE MASS ON DECA, BUT MOST OF IT COULD BE WATER, AND YOU COULD LOOSE MOST GAINS ON DECA, WHERE AS EQ YOU WONT GAIN AS MUCH, BUT U WONT GAIN ANY WATER,AND YOULL KEEP WHAT U GAIN! NOT TO MENTION LESS SIDES....SOMETHING LIKE THAT

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LivLarge
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posted May 29, 2000 08:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LivLarge   Click Here to Email LivLarge     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks i appreciate the descriptions and advice. If i stacked the eq and winny how much weight could i expect to gain.

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Renegade
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posted May 29, 2000 09:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Renegade   Click Here to Email Renegade     Edit/Delete Message
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