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MattTheSkywalker Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 964) |
posted May 29, 2000 10:41 AM
  
Anyone out there want to venture a guess as to the percentage of pro football players who use AS or have at sometime in their lives. I mean, we have a few college ballers on here who are, so I am guessing that the number is pretty high. Excluding kickers and punters (and I'm sure some have used AS), I would be that 60% of the players have used juice before. Anyone want to add some input - let's hear it. Matt IP: Logged |
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Natural Wonder Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 389) |
posted May 29, 2000 10:46 AM
I know a friend that know 3 players from the Bills. All play defense. They're form 225lbs to 250lbs and pretty lean. When we told them he used juice. They asked him all kinds of questions about it. They never touched it before. But they got pro nutritionist and shit like that working with 'em all the time IP: Logged |
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E2 Moderator (Total posts: 3260) |
posted May 29, 2000 11:04 AM
Hahahahahah matt, i'm guessing a lot higher than that, at least 90% IP: Logged |
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lexicon Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 194) |
posted May 29, 2000 11:12 AM
E2 is right, at least 90% and maybe 99 or 100 IP: Logged |
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NoviceJuicer Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 54) |
posted May 29, 2000 11:24 AM
Yeah, show me one who says he has not and I will show you a runner up in the Pinnochio contest. I have know alot of highly comptetitive and pro athletes. Heck I am sure at least 60% of college FBallers do roids at one time or another. Look at the Basketball players to. See those deltoids? Compare those to the Basketball players of 30 years ago. C'mon. IP: Logged |
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qui Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 112) |
posted May 29, 2000 11:31 AM
not sure what you are saying below, but reading between the lines I think you imply these 3 players denied their AAS usage - correct? If so, they are likely playing with your friend or your friend misunderstood. With millions of dollars at play, AAS is firmly entrenched with all teams as a "supplement".
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mightydog Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 42) |
posted May 29, 2000 11:36 AM
Alzado (not sure of spelling) played for Oakland Raiders and died of brain cancer. Blamed roids. Anyone know more details? Seemed like it was 10 years ago. IP: Logged |
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Brutis Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 105) |
posted May 29, 2000 11:36 AM
You are completely leaving out sprinters, swimmers, and tennis players (for goodness sake). I read somewhere that AS A PERCENTAGE of people in the sport, tennis (yes, tennis) players were among the highest abusers of anabolic steroids. I personally can't see it, but I actually read that somewhere. Think about virtually all olympic atheletes too. Come to think of it, who hasn't juiced at one time or another. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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BigT Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 52) |
posted May 29, 2000 11:38 AM
I think maybe 60% are regular users/abusers...but when you are asking who has tried them at some point in the past I think it's closer to 80-90%...Alot of lineman I know from personal experience are just big mother fuckers who can push off the line, they can't do a whole hell of alot in the gym...I have seen a 325 lb offensive lineman from the Carolina Panthers struggle to bench 305 for 3 reps....most skill players are just purely talented, like QB's and RB's and WR's...AS use would probably hurt their performance...WHen you look at the defensive line I think they are the worst offenders... IP: Logged |
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Yoda Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 125) |
posted May 29, 2000 11:56 AM
Yah, I'm thinking in the 90% range to. I've trained more than a few ball players who went onto the pros and hear all kinds of stories about what goes on there. Even the Kickers!!! IP: Logged |
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XXXL Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 244) |
posted May 29, 2000 12:04 PM
i love it when a freshmen comes back from summer brake and put on 20-30 lbs of muscle. then they tell everybody who asks that it's all hard work. not A/S. i played college hockey and most of them were using. i thought i was a big guy for the sport until i started playing with these guys. they ran all over me a first. bigger, stronger, faster, even the big guys were faster. didn't take long to figure out why. they all told me to get on the juice or i'd never make it. lots of pressure. IP: Logged |
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suster Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 19) |
posted May 29, 2000 12:06 PM
if someone payed me 3 million a year to play football I'd juice until my balls where the size of raisins IP: Logged |
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mightydog Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 42) |
posted May 29, 2000 12:11 PM
I'm with you. For 3 million bones, not only my lefty but both my raisons hehe. IP: Logged |
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naughty Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 178) |
posted May 29, 2000 12:11 PM
I agree with BIGT! I play Div.II in the Penn.-- (psac) and on my team there are only about a half a dozen of us who juice and the thing I just relized is that we are all def.ends and linemen!! with the exception of 1 tight-end. So I would say that pro athletes (football) might be lower like 40%.... IP: Logged |
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superdave Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 122) |
posted May 29, 2000 12:23 PM
ALZADO DIED FROM GH AND SHIT LIKE THAT, NOT ROIDS, NO WAY PLAIN ROIDS CAUSED A FUCKIN BRAIN TUMOR. IP: Logged |
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mightydog Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 42) |
posted May 29, 2000 12:28 PM
Why would he blame roids? Motive? IP: Logged |
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moe dank Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 614) |
posted May 29, 2000 12:32 PM
I use to work for a guy that use to play for the steelers now playing on the west coast. Him and a few other players would come out to his business and we use to sit around and bullshit when the work was done. Out of the 10+ players that came out with him at different times everyone juiced in college and some still did a cycle or two per year. I was like 140lbs and they use to always say i needed to do a few cycles, quote "it will change your life." I would like to name some names cause a couple were superstars, but i wont. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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MattTheSkywalker Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 964) |
posted May 29, 2000 12:46 PM
I figured that the 60% figure I put up there was a little conservative. And I know that sprinters are using them - a good friend of mine who plays Triple A baseball says he would estimate 30% of BASEBALL players have used gear. I know that they are everywhere. I have some nearby :-). Just looking for some more feedback. Matt IP: Logged |
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tray renfro Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 546) |
posted May 29, 2000 01:46 PM
i've talked to a few ex-players(recently retired), and they would use halo all season long, along w/ a couple of other cycle throughout the year. as for a number my guess would be, 30% currently use, and 70% have used before, ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Natural Wonder Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 389) |
posted May 29, 2000 02:19 PM
Nature can't make the beasts we have playing for our favorite team! IP: Logged |
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T-BONE Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 63) |
posted May 29, 2000 05:06 PM
I don't know about pro football players, but I do know a powerlifter on the U.S. Olympic team. I've talked to him about it before, and he can't juice at all. He had to sign a contract that he'd stay drug free for the duration of the contract. He can also be tested randomly at any time. So I have to disagree with Brutis that all Olympic athletes juice. IP: Logged |
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tom659 Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 41) |
posted May 29, 2000 05:09 PM
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KidRock Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 53) |
posted May 29, 2000 05:48 PM
ALmost every football player out there has used before. My guess. I know that HGH is running rampped in the NFL. Test is being used a lot too. Mainly by the Lineman and running backs. IP: Logged |
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supraman Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 102) |
posted May 29, 2000 07:40 PM
I know two NFL players that juice for sure. They both went to my highschool...graduated with one of them. Bengals and Eagles. Hmmm...the only two NFL players I know and they both juice.....Nuff said! IP: Logged |
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beastmasster Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 148) |
posted May 29, 2000 08:51 PM
When we were in high school a buddy of mine bought winny from a dude who was bragging about how he sold to a former PSU All-American RB who went first round but I don't know what team, he still plays now. IP: Logged |
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suster Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 19) |
posted May 29, 2000 09:20 PM
i heard the LB from the broncos bill something uses cheque drops thats why he is nuts IP: Logged |
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Cleaner Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 303) |
posted May 29, 2000 09:43 PM
I agree alot with big T. Back in 92 I was asked to run a summer lifting program up at the college. It was a favor done by our wrestling coach for his buddy at a major university in Oklahoma. Anyway we put them up for 4 weeks during the summer and I came in everyday to help them with thier strength training. Although this was the biggest bunch of guys I have ever been around they were also the weakest. The biggest guy in the group went 345. To make a point and to shut their traps because my coach was sick of hearing how a little shit like me was going teach them anything, he had the big guy bench. Well monster balls could only get 275 up on bench for three reps. At the time I was wrestling and went a wet 168lbs and was able to push out 17 or 18 reps. Thats why they were there no strength or stamina, they needed quality and quanity. So back then I don't think a guy in that program was using now maybe half. These are not muscular people they are just big fat walls. IP: Logged |
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Rich1 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 494) |
posted May 29, 2000 09:53 PM
Roids in the NFL? God tell me it ain't so, no way those guys are our heroes, don't tell me they juice, no you've ruined my day...Damn it!!! Shit it's got to be like 90% these guys will do any thing for an edge...For 3 mill a year I'd live on the stuff...Just j/k'ing, maybe... IP: Logged |
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muscles2 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 178) |
posted May 29, 2000 10:14 PM
i have a buddy that was an all-american in college when the ncaa were supposed to give random drug test the coach would come up to him and say do you think things will be ok on the test if you took it and he would say i don't know that was his q for not to be tested. the point is the ncaa does random tests but on no name players as for the starters the coaches can pick which players should take the test. so my guess is at least 90% of pro players take roids including kickers and punters. IP: Logged |
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Jay-T Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 24) |
posted May 29, 2000 10:34 PM
my old geography teacher played in the CFL and was telling me that over half the team were juicing it. IP: Logged |
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lc576 Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 5) |
posted May 29, 2000 10:39 PM
The random drug test that schools do is for recreational drugs. This is why college football players get away with it. I ran track in college and as long as you didn't go to national meets you could do roids. If, however, you went to a national meet, they tested the winner and one random out of each event. They would take you by the arm and lead you to a tent. You had to sit there until you had to piss, then they would watch you take out your dick and piss in a cup. If you didn't do this you would be banned from the sport. The same goes for all of the individual sports. I don't know why team sports don't get the same treatment.
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lc576 Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 5) |
posted May 29, 2000 10:42 PM
The random drug test that schools do is for recreational drugs. This is why college football players get away with it. I ran track in college and as long as you didn't go to national meets you could do roids. If, however, you went to a national meet, they tested the winner and one random out of each event. They would take you by the arm and lead you to a tent. You had to sit there until you had to piss, then they would watch you take out your dick and piss in a cup. If you didn't do this you would be banned from the sport. The same goes for all of the individual sports. I don't know why team sports don't get the same treatment.
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BROCK Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 122) |
posted May 29, 2000 10:54 PM
MY UNCLE PLAYED QB AT TEXAS A&M 30 YEARS AGO AND THEY, THE TRAINERS OF THE TEAM, GAVE HIM AND THE REST OF THE MAIN PLAYERS ROIDS. THESE WERE UNIVERSITY DOCTORS AND TRAINERS. HE SAID THAT HE DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THE FUCK THEY WERE AT THE TIME. NOW HE'S 6'4 420LBS AND UNHEALTHY AS SHIT. HE BLAMES A LOT OF THAT ON ROIDS. BUT ALL HE DOES NOW IS FLY AROUND THE FUCKING WORLD SELLING OIL. I THINK THAT'S WHAT'S MADE HIM SO FAT, NOT THE TEST THIRTY YEARS AGO. IP: Logged |
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SHREDDED Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 34) |
posted May 29, 2000 11:06 PM
did you guys know the NHL does not ban any drug. everything is legal! IP: Logged |
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beastmasster Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 148) |
posted May 29, 2000 11:10 PM
There's some books out about the old Barry Switzer U of Oklahoma teams in the eighties that juiced like madmen. Ever hear of Brian Bosworth? U of O and juiced until he destroyed his knees and went insane...mid eighties. IP: Logged |
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MattTheSkywalker Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 964) |
posted May 29, 2000 11:13 PM
Great responses. Keep them coming. In NCAA basketball, we were tested very infrequently. I played D-1 at a small school in a major basketball conference. AS are not a huge deal in college basketball the way they are in football and some others, but some players I know used them. I took 2 piss tests in my 4 years and had a few days notice. Random? NO! The players were more concerned about weed showing up than anything else. Our swim team was tested at major meets if they won an event, or if they set a record. Additionally, some swimmers who showed great improvement were tested. It was considerably more strictthan basketball. Matt IP: Logged |
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GOWZER Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 168) |
posted May 29, 2000 11:14 PM
ive been hearing some crazy rumors that even bodybuilders have started using anabolic steroids in order to increase muscle size,i was shocked.has any ever heard of this odd phenomenon.? IP: Logged |
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GOWZER Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 168) |
posted May 29, 2000 11:15 PM
ive been hearing some crazy rumors that even bodybuilders have started using anabolic steroids in order to increase muscle size,i was shocked.has any one ever heard of this odd phenomenon.? IP: Logged |
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Capt'n_Crunch Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 436) |
posted May 29, 2000 11:59 PM
I got a friend back home who went to play football for some small college down south and he told me that his entire team was on deca and that the coaches would sign out a complete injection kit everyday (1cc per day)..... I know he wasnt lying because when he first went there and came back home he had put on over 40 pounds in less than 3 months, and he also said that they would buy them all the supplements they wanted for free, he said guys had closets full of liquid amino acids and protein that they would drink like water. He also has a conference championship ring to show for it hehehe. He quit last year though...... IP: Logged |
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Mojo Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 249) |
posted May 30, 2000 12:02 AM
99 10.75% The other.25 got cut. [This message has been edited by Mojo (edited May 30, 2000).] IP: Logged |
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PhatPat Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 106) |
posted May 30, 2000 02:16 AM
Well they all must have. I think that is what playing elite sports is about. The only arguement I can have is that my best friend that I have known almost all my life is probably one of the strongest thickest dudes I have ever seen. He isnt the stongest but one of the strongest. He is in college right now and might be on his way to the pros in a couple of years. The guy all his life refused to take anything in terms of supplements. He wouldnt even drink a protien shake. His college coaches forced it down his throat of course, but my point is: He has never taken anything close to roids, not even creatine. And he is extrememly strong. My point is that at the elite level there are freaks of nature, he is one of them. So maybe some of them are just freaks not juicers. IP: Logged |
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Cornobbled Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 78) |
posted May 30, 2000 02:17 AM
just look at some of those guys. It is pretty obvious a whole lot of them do IP: Logged |
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Thick dog Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 297) |
posted May 30, 2000 01:24 PM
On my college football team, probably 80% used some kind of AS in the offseason, usually dbol. I didn't, and that's probably why I lasted 1 year. IP: Logged |
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krzysiu013 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 119) |
posted May 30, 2000 01:37 PM
unless your some genetic freak of nature, you BETTER be on some sauce to compete with some of those monsters. i bet the percentage of users is HIGH. chris ------------------ IP: Logged |
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BIGDT Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 120) |
posted May 30, 2000 03:17 PM
90% Alzado never stopped a cycle, as soon as he'd finish one, he started a new one. His cycle lasted 15 years. IP: Logged |
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beastmasster Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 148) |
posted May 30, 2000 03:30 PM
Another guy from the Steelers, I THINK it was Ray Mansfield but I might be wrong, would powerlift and take cheques, halos, d's, test, etc all year long with no breaks. He came to our school talking about how it wasn't worth it because he had heart surgery...bs, it was worth it! I wish people (the general public and medical community) could draw the line between educated use and abuse! Another one, Travis Jervey was in M&F NFL's best bodies issue, then 6 months later got busted for juice! IP: Logged |
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