posted May 29, 2000 10:29 AM            

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Not to flame anybody but why does every
Tom,Dick & Harry feel like its neccesary
to let everyone on the board know they just
did their first ever injection?I personally
dont think its that big of a accomplishment
to stick a pin in your ass,True it is kinda
hard the first time.But it doesnt mean that
your all of a sudden part of a elite group.
What you accomplish before & after you start juicing with
the help of hardcore training & eating right
is something worth sharing with everyone.
Like I said not flaming anyone but i've seen
to many guys shoot shit up their ass & then
3 months later they are back to the same size
cause they didnt follow thru with hard training & nutrition.Just saying AS is just
part of being one of the elites.

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posted May 29, 2000 10:36 AM            

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I understand what your saying. But not every person sticks a needle in there ass and when you do, you make that first step. If you don't train hard and eat right then you never make that final step. i remember my first shot I felt that I had I joined the elite but now when I really think about it was not that big a deal.

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posted May 29, 2000 10:40 AM            

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Yeah scott, but it is really just to share the experience with the newbies out there that want to know what it's like to jam that needle in their ass. I know that it's been alot of help for me to read the first inj. posts, and everyone needs a little help now and then. Obviously the effort after the shot is the most important issue, but to help the "timid" by sharing our experiences regarding the "first shot", we provide the necessary information.......and that's what this board is all about!!!

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posted May 29, 2000 10:40 AM            

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Not to flame here either.
But I don't know how you can back your shit up here. It's not like these guys (myself included) have never trained before. I've been training for 2 and a half years now. I've completely plateaued since January. All that time I though about using AS. 5 months of finding the right people, asking the right question and it's on. I don't see why you get all pissed because someone finally crossed the line. It's like a graduation!!!
All your research and spent money as led you somewhere.
Give the guy some recognition for his efforts. It's a BIG thing sticking a needle full of AS in your ass for the very first time. You are very nervous and anxious. All those fears vanish after the injection went fine. They should share their successful journey with us.
I think, you should look back at your motives for 1st starting AS before you write a dumb ass post like that!

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posted May 29, 2000 10:50 AM            

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I like reading the "first injection" post. I feel like you are joining a elite group of people. You are saying i will not be a fat lazy american. You saying i am not happy with being average. You are saying i am in this for the long haul, when you decide to shot that first shot in to your ass.

I say keep'em coming. YOu will have one from me in july.

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posted May 29, 2000 10:53 AM            

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I like to see the posts that show they have taken a big step toward self improvement.

L8R

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posted May 29, 2000 10:59 AM            

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Soooooo, like I said Scott, your post didn't make much sense. I hope this shows you that those "1st injection" post are welcome and supported by the board!

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posted May 29, 2000 11:39 AM            

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Maybe some of you didnt read the post all the
way thru,Im not pissed about first inj. posts.I was just saying that I dont feel its
a reason to celebrate.Im in the middle of my
first cycle now & making good gains but before that I worked my ass of for 7 years
Im 6'0 & was a lean 250 before I started AS.
I feel that is a far more greater accomplishment then the 2 seconds it took to stick that pin in my ass.I dont have a problem helping someone thru or giving someone advice on their first cycle,I didnt
say I did(read the post).I guess maybe I was
more of a man about it than some others &
didnt feel like I deserved a fucking celebration party for something millions
of people do everyday.

Thats just my opinion & like I said
im not flaming anyone,so lets squash it.

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posted May 29, 2000 12:14 PM         

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If I was 6'0" and "a lean 250" I probably wouldn't touch a needle! I'd just diet down to about 230, ride the exercise bike more, and say "hello girls" !!!

As for the first inj posts I have always liked them because there are few issues that bother guys more (and it is double if you have a wife because she will probably need to know) about AS - and this is where I've seen guys being supportive of others... more than you generally see in the rest of society.

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posted May 29, 2000 12:18 PM            

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the first time you fall on your ass cuz you cant walk from doing squats sounds more like a good "first time" post to me...

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posted May 29, 2000 12:21 PM            

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Costanza not a flame but why would I go down to 230 when im already
lean at 250?

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posted May 29, 2000 02:27 PM            

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Scott if you are already lean at 250 naturally you should be Mr. Natural World.
I don't think your decision to do AS was very thought-out. If you have that good of genes why use AS???
Not to say I don't beleive you, but that's quite an accomplishment!

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posted May 29, 2000 02:28 PM            

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Oh, and how lean are you? BF%?

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posted May 29, 2000 02:32 PM            

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I can see both sides of this one. On the one hand, sticking a needle in is not a big deal from the physical act perspective, but on the other hand the excitement from actually doing the first time is something to share with your friends. In this place we are all friends and who else would you share a new experience with. Most folks would look at you like a drug addict with a suicidal tendencies. I say post away. I like to hear what's going on in my friends lives.

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posted May 29, 2000 02:33 PM            

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Thank you Ice Man, that was deeply touching

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posted May 29, 2000 03:39 PM            

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hihi well i guess i'll never join the elite then..i'll just be a gawker...oh well

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posted May 29, 2000 04:07 PM            

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6'0 and a LEAN 250 without AS?
sounds like we've got our next mr. olympia competitor now that this guy is on AS
give me a break dude

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posted May 29, 2000 05:23 PM            

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opinions are like assholes everybodys got one

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posted May 29, 2000 08:58 PM            

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Thats right 6'0 at about 10-12% BF.I guess maybe
some of you guys are thinking 5 or 6% but to
me 10-12 is pretty lean without having to
be on ECA stacks & low protein diets.My abs
are showing thru good & I have good vascularity.To drummerbuilder yes believe
it or not there is a such thing as good genetics.My father was a big man he played
college football & was one hell of a athelete
my brother was Mr.VA & he is now at a 6-7%
BF at about 250 also.I wrestled for 8 years
thru out Jr. high,HS & some college then
I played rugby for 4 years.So i've been training a long time.That & 6 years of college with just class,eating,lifting, sleeping & free supplements adds up.As
for the sarcasim from some of you guys
saying I should be the next Olimpia or
whatever you need alot more than 250lbs
to be all that.I saw my brother compete &
go thru hell for years.So I dont think thats
what I really wanna do plus im 27 now
& out of college with a good salary & pretty
comfortable.I may do a few local shows but thats it.I dont care if you disbelive me,
trust me there are plenty of guys on this board that are alot bigger than me & were
before they started using AS.

Saying that me deciding to use AS is a misake,
well the way I see it is you can never be too BIG

FUCK JUST LIKE MATT WAS SAYING THE OTHER
DAY,SEE HOW FAR OFF THE TOPIC WEVE GOTTEN!!
Lets squash it now.

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posted June 01, 2000 02:46 PM         

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BUMP

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posted June 01, 2000 02:49 PM            

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hey tom youve down a lot of bumpin there today buddy.

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posted June 01, 2000 02:51 PM         

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i hear you dude, let us know after the 4th or 5th week on progress.

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posted June 01, 2000 07:38 PM            

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SCOTT, FIND SOMETHING BETTER TO CRY ABOUT.

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posted June 01, 2000 09:33 PM            

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Why not just give Scott a break? He's entitled to posting what he wants, same as newbies posting their "first injection" experiences. If he's not happy with that, it's his business. You don't have to agree with him, just respect his views, that's all. I think it's nothing bad to debate upon his views, but I cannot agree with taking the argument and making it personal and being sarcastic about his natural achievements. If he really is a lean 250, then way to go for him, if he isn't, the only person he's really fooling is himself.

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posted June 01, 2000 09:38 PM            

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That is a good point, and we should all respect everyone's views here. That's what makes this board the powerful tool that it is, I just wish I was a lean 250....maybe someday. Scott's cool with me.

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posted June 01, 2000 09:48 PM         

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this kinda reminds me of something my dad told me when i was 14. i had just fucked for the first time and i was braggin to my dad about it and he looks at me and says, "So what if you lost your virginity. Im married and ive been fucking twice a week for 15 years." its all about perspective bro. id put money on the fact as much as youve shot up, you will never forget the first time you injected.

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