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  STARTING GYNO GOT NOLVA DO I NEED ARIMIDEX ALSO? 2THICK, MODS, need your advice asap

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Author Topic:   STARTING GYNO GOT NOLVA DO I NEED ARIMIDEX ALSO? 2THICK, MODS, need your advice asap
skg
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posted May 29, 2000 02:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for skg   Click Here to Email skg     Edit/Delete Message
taking deca 400mg/week
after the third day of 500mg test enanth nipple started to get soar, and there is developing tissue at the base of nipple
got nolvadex i took 40mg yesterday. plan to take 40mg for five days and then another 5 days 20mg. was taking clomid 50mg EOD.

im afraid that if when i stop nolva then it will start again.

do i need arimidex or teslac and at what doses?

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PhatPat
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posted May 29, 2000 02:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhatPat   Click Here to Email PhatPat     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 56498003
I suggest that you should have gotten arimidex from the start or Teslac. But now that you got the Nolvadex, I think that will be fine. You dont need anymore, especially looking at your cycle. You wont need anymore. Just stick to you nolvadex and you will be fine.

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2Thick
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posted May 29, 2000 03:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 2Thick   Click Here to Email 2Thick     Edit/Delete Message
The Nolva may be fine, but Nolvadex cannot always stop the progesterone-induced gyno from Deca. I would try to find some Arimidex (if possible) or reduce the Deca dosage if it does not get any better.


I doubt the test eth is causing the gyno in only 3 days.


Jon

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The Ranger
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posted May 29, 2000 08:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Ranger   Click Here to Email The Ranger     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 67366885
2Thick is exactly right Bro....if your symptoms are the result of the deca, which does not aromatize, but binds itself and activates the progesterone recpters....anti-estrogens will not help. However, armidex has been shown to reduce gyno to the point of nullity, and will cut the armotase by up to 70%.....and I agree, I do not think it's the enanthnate.....

Ranger

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MattTheSkywalker
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posted May 29, 2000 10:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MattTheSkywalker   Click Here to Email MattTheSkywalker     Edit/Delete Message
Bro that's deca induced.

Need to mortgage the house and get some arimidex. (they're not cheap)

Matt

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E2
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posted May 29, 2000 10:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for E2   Click Here to Email E2     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 54337564
Sory boys but arimidex wont' help with progesterone induced gyno. Your only chance is larger amounts of test which will bind to the progesterone recptor but not activate it, Ru486 if someone has figured out how to use it (maybe i should look into that), or winny.

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skg
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posted May 29, 2000 03:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for skg   Click Here to Email skg     Edit/Delete Message
so the answer is to get more test?

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2Thick
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posted May 29, 2000 04:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 2Thick   Click Here to Email 2Thick     Edit/Delete Message
I doubt that more test will prevent/reduce the gyno. Only reducing the Deca dosage will reduce the gyno.

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E2
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posted May 29, 2000 04:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for E2   Click Here to Email E2     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 54337564
Well 2thick you're wrong, if you up the test it will help to prevent progesterone induces gyno and then taking more clomid will prevent the addes estrogen in your system from harming you.

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2Thick
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posted May 29, 2000 05:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 2Thick   Click Here to Email 2Thick     Edit/Delete Message
E2,

I don't think you are correct....

How are you so sure.

Jon

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The Ranger
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posted May 29, 2000 06:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Ranger   Click Here to Email The Ranger     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 67366885
I might as well throw my hat into the ring on this one.....I agree that there is no anti-estrogen that will get rid of progestrone induced gyno, but from talks with Macro...may he sleep in peace...there have been studies showing a reduction in existing gyno tissue....worth checking on...

Ranger

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Rich1
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posted May 29, 2000 06:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rich1   Click Here to Email Rich1     Edit/Delete Message
I too am very intersted in this topic, my right nipple was a little sore today, though it's only been 8 days since 1st shot of primoteston 250, last cycle was 8 weeks ago of sus, did my clomid for two weeks, getting more this week no problem there, I have a couple left which I will take over the next couple of days till my other stuff gets here, my source is very good and I'm not worried about getting it in time...I'm ordering a bunch this time, this cycle will last a total of 9 weeks, then I'm off till fall..hope to gain twenty pound this time, three weeks at 750 mg then tapering to 500 then to 250 last three weeks with ultragan to harden up and cut...thanks bro's!

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Brutis
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posted May 29, 2000 07:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brutis   Click Here to Email Brutis     Edit/Delete Message
How about progesterone induced gyno from winny, sus, or Eq? Is this possible, or estrogen induced if using clomid?

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