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Milk_Man
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posted May 27, 2000 07:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Milk_Man   Click Here to Email Milk_Man     Edit/Delete Message
I know that tren and nortest have very simmilar structure and spectrum. Does anyone know the difference? I have heard of people taking fina pellets oraly and having results. I'd like to compare it to a couple other structures and see if its worth it. I've also heard of people drinking parabolan back in the day.


Metabolism of endogenous and exogenous anabolic agents in cattle.
Rico AG

The endogenous anabolic agents, estradiol-17 beta, progesterone and testosterone are steroids that are quickly metabolized by the liver and are not very active when administered orally. Estradiol-17 beta is excreted by the bovine in bile as free estradiol-17 alpha, and by swine, in urine, as glucuronides and sulfates. In ruminants, the primary metabolite of progesterone is pregnandiol and that of testosterone is epitestosterone. In horses, the metabolites of these compounds are primarily 17 ketosteroids. Esters of the endogenous anabolic agents are rapidly hydrolyzed and the nonesterified forms follow the same biotransformation pathways as the natural compounds biosynthesized by the animal. The exogenous anabolic agents, such as trenbolone acetate, zeranol and diethylstilbestrol, may be active by the oral route and are less readily metabolized in the liver than the endogenous anabolics. Their metabolic pathways may be complex and lead to excreted forms after glucuronide conjugation. With respect to biochemical mechanism of action, it can be assumed that the anabolics act like all steroids by way of intracellular receptors. Biotransformations could lead to more reactive molecules that may bind themselves to normal constituents of the organism. Bound metabolites are generally formed later than free metabolites, and are considered less toxic with a lower level of bioavailability.

"The exogenous anabolic agents, such as trenbolone acetate, zeranol and diethylstilbestrol, may be active by the oral route and are less readily metabolized in the liver than the endogenous anabolics."

I wonder if the ester would hinder absobtion or enhance it.

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Dutch
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posted May 28, 2000 07:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dutch     Edit/Delete Message
Big bump for Milk_Man

Dutch

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efigy
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posted May 28, 2000 11:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for efigy   Click Here to Email efigy     Edit/Delete Message
bump

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LBP
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posted May 28, 2000 11:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LBP   Click Here to Email LBP     Edit/Delete Message
i have a friend who gets the trenbolone off an andro/fina kit...it's different then deca/nor because it uses different pathways. i don't know the spectrum off hand unfortunately but if you go to www.sterloids.com it might be steraloids then they'll have the spectrums for the chemical hormone compounds...hope this helps
also i used trenbolone acetate and deca w/ EQ and got great results ...28lbs in 8wks and lost maybe 5 plus i should have ate more protein but...that how shit happens

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Milk_Man
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posted May 28, 2000 12:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Milk_Man   Click Here to Email Milk_Man     Edit/Delete Message
I've been looking at it and it looks like the ester will get some of that trenbolone past that first pass as long as it don't get removed before it reaches the liver. Its a safe bet that you can get more in than lets say some prohormone due to that ester. What I would do is treat each pellet as a d-bol tab, 5mg of trenbolone and take 6 per day orally. Thats a total of 120mg for maybe a 30mg pass, about 25%. I dont know if its a good idea to disolve it in an oil or not, I think alot of the ideas in prohormones will aply here so if anyone has some good tips on getting the most out of prohormones as far as absorption goes it would help.

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Milk_Man
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posted May 28, 2000 04:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Milk_Man   Click Here to Email Milk_Man     Edit/Delete Message
Here is something that might work to help get that tren into your system. LPC.
http://shop.massquantities.com/supplements/116.html

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