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BIG RICK ROCK
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posted May 26, 2000 12:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BIG RICK ROCK   Click Here to Email BIG RICK ROCK     Edit/Delete Message
Ok well right now I'm on my second cycle!(i'm on a cutting cycle)
my third will start around Novenber(winter) but I'm gonna start to get my gear together from now.
this is what my winter cycle will look like.
Please keep in mind that by then I'll be about 175lbs, doesn't sound like much but i'm also a short dude (like 5'5 with a pair of heels)
so here it is.

wk/anadrol/Dbol/sust/EQ/Primo/Clomid
1 1ED 5ED 500 400 *** 1ED
2 1ED 5ED 500 300 *** 1ED
3 *** 4ED 500 300 *** 1E0D
4 *** 2ED 750 300 *** 1EOD
5 *** *** 750 400 *** 1EOD
6 *** *** 750 400 *** 1EOD
7 *** *** 500 400 *** 1EOD
8 *** *** 250 400 200 1EOD
9 *** *** *** 400 200 1EOD
10 *** *** *** 400 300 1EOD
11 *** *** *** 400 300 1EOD
12 *** *** *** 400 *** 1ED
13 *** *** *** *** *** 1ED
14 *** *** *** *** *** 1EOD
15 *** *** *** *** *** ****

NOVADEX ON HAND.Milk Thistle and liver helpers. a must!
The theory behind this cycle is:: Hit Hard and get out, unlike most cycles My gains will come in the first 4 weeks my receptor will be hit hard then sisnce they would have been clean for almost six months!!!
Around week 4 the SUST should be kicking in.
the EQ is to help out the more Androgenic drugs and then all the way thru to solidify gains, the primo at the end is to solidify gains also, no reason to use more than 300 a week when I'm using so much EQ.

I know this looks like a long cycle but after week 8, I'm off from the harder drugs, then it's just solidifying gains and tampering off.
and no I can't do 750mg of SUST all the way thru, not when I'm taking Anadrol50 and D-bol
I'm prone to acne and my face is gonna blow up!!!
let me know what you think!


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Thick dog
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posted May 26, 2000 12:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Thick dog     Edit/Delete Message
It looks really good except taking both drol and dbol at the same time might destroy your liver. You may want wait until the 3rd week before you start the dbol.

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bstrong
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posted May 26, 2000 01:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bstrong   Click Here to Email bstrong     Edit/Delete Message
yep sounds like a killer cycle (A-boms+D-bol sounds like a bit hurs on the liver), i would loose anadrol and up the dbol dosege mybe also up the primo

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bstrong
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posted May 26, 2000 01:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bstrong   Click Here to Email bstrong     Edit/Delete Message
yep sounds like a killer cycle (A-boms+D-bol sounds like a bit hurs on the liver), i would loose anadrol and up the dbol dosege mybe also up the primo
P.S.
that's very close to my next cycle (without the androl)
if u can post updates on your cycle.

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demaroid
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posted May 26, 2000 01:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for demaroid   Click Here to Email demaroid     Edit/Delete Message
Honestly using the a-bombs and d-bol together sounds like a waste. Using 50mg of d-bol a day will provide more than enough of the gains your expecting other than that I like how you have structured it and why not hit it now and cut up in the end that way by August you will have the women crawling all over you!LOL

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WCP
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posted May 26, 2000 01:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for WCP   Click Here to Email WCP     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 39184064
After some research bro, and seeing as how this is fairly close to how I was going to run mine...I would say start with the AD50's and after you drop those...hit the dbol.


Later Bro,
WCP

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coyote977
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posted May 26, 2000 01:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for coyote977   Click Here to Email coyote977     Edit/Delete Message
Hey bro, pretty tough cycle, you may want to sign for a liver transplant jajajajaja.....

first 2 weeks pretty hard, but the rest of the cycle sound good.

take care

el coyote

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Krusher
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posted May 26, 2000 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Krusher   Click Here to Email Krusher     Edit/Delete Message
Keep the A-50's but start the D_bol after you're done those, I don't like the idea off upping the sust, the sides are very similar at 500mg as 750mg. Looks very good though, I'll probably try something similar in the future.

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Jay Z
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posted May 26, 2000 01:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jay Z   Click Here to Email Jay Z     Edit/Delete Message
get rid of weeks 10 and 11. You need your balls back online to keep the gains. Whatever gear you have left, use it for the next cycle.

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MattTheSkywalker
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posted May 26, 2000 02:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MattTheSkywalker   Click Here to Email MattTheSkywalker     Edit/Delete Message
BRR,

DON'T PYRAMID THE SUST!!!!!!!!!!!

Start it high and taper it if you want, but don't go from 500 to 750.

Matt

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TwinGATs
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posted May 26, 2000 02:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TwinGATs   Click Here to Email TwinGATs     Edit/Delete Message
using the d-bol and the a-50 ain't that bad of idea...a-50 is king....that way you don't have to take to much of the either one....I would take 1000 of sust250 the first week though, then to 750....I don't think you need to start the EQ till the 3 or 4 week...You won't really lose the gains from the a50 and d-bol till you drop the level of test....besides Eq from the start thats alot of injecting.....E-mail, me I want to ask you something....

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BIG RICK ROCK
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posted May 26, 2000 03:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BIG RICK ROCK   Click Here to Email BIG RICK ROCK     Edit/Delete Message
Matt, if I start the sust at 750mg while on D-bol and Anadrol, It's gonna be too much sides for me to handle.
I might kill somebody LOL LOL
I up the SUST dose after I'm off the D-bol and Androl so I can keep my gains from these two, and still make progress,

week 10 and 11 are necessary!!!
I have to solidify my gains and keep my body anabolic while coming off the hard drugs!
EQ and Primo are not very liver toxic so extending their use won't hurt me.
plus they both affect nitrogen balance positively and I'm gonna need that, since during this period cortizol levels are gonna be pretty high!!

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MattTheSkywalker
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posted May 26, 2000 03:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MattTheSkywalker   Click Here to Email MattTheSkywalker     Edit/Delete Message
BRR,

I know why you pyramided the sust. But it doesn't matter, it's still a bad idea. here's why:

it takes 3 weeks or so for the sust to get into your system. By week 3 (for some it's even week 4) it starts to accumulate.

You're only using A-bombs for 2 weeks, so it won't be a big deal. Then when you stop the A-bombs, you will have a pretty good amount of sust built up. For the first two weeks, you need to let the sust accumulate.

Sust is ALWAYS stacked higher in the beginnign, and then either tapered or kept constant, not pyramided.

Matt

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BIG RICK ROCK
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posted May 26, 2000 03:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BIG RICK ROCK   Click Here to Email BIG RICK ROCK     Edit/Delete Message
Ok. here we go, The EQ, I'm thinking I better inject once a week not every other day, It turns out that after doing some research and phone calls to the manufacturers of Ganabol50 in my home country,(I'm using Ultragran but still same shit)
the Ester in the EQ relases at a slower rate then previously tought, it takes up to 28 days for it to release(not 3 days like people think), thats why people on EQ only cycles don't see gains until week 4-5

about the SUST Pyramid MattSky I think you might be right!! I'm gonna look into it, I still have a long way to go until I start, but I wanna do all the foot work now!!!
thanx to all you bros for helping me out, you guys are the best!!

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the truth
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posted May 26, 2000 10:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for the truth   Click Here to Email the truth     Edit/Delete Message
Rick, EQ is ACTIVE in the body for about 28 days. Its actual release pattern is similar to that of deca. It should get into your system after about 3-5 days.

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BIG RICK ROCK
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posted May 26, 2000 10:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BIG RICK ROCK   Click Here to Email BIG RICK ROCK     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah the truth thats what I meant to say!!!
maybe I didn't explain it well.

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WCP
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posted May 27, 2000 12:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for WCP   Click Here to Email WCP     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 39184064
Personally Bro,

I would not stack the Abombs and dbol, no sense in having two strong androgens fighting for dominance over AR sites.

I guess I didnt read everything right, but I wouldn taper the sus at all...start at 750mgs and end with it. Like I said this is real similar to the cycle Im going to run in the fall...but Ill be using a gram all the way through..

Later,
WCP

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BIG RICK ROCK
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posted May 28, 2000 12:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BIG RICK ROCK   Click Here to Email BIG RICK ROCK     Edit/Delete Message

Well bros after all your advice I decided ro edit my cycle, how does it look now????

wk/anadrol/Dbol/sust/ EQ/Primo/Clomid
1 1ED 6ED 750 400 *** 1ED
2 1ED 5ED 500 300 *** 1ED
3 *** 4ED 500 300 *** 1E0D
4 *** 2ED 500 300 *** 1EOD
5 *** *** 500 300 *** 1EOD
6 *** *** 500 400 *** 1EOD
7 *** *** 500 400 *** 1EOD
8 *** *** 250 400 *** 1EOD
9 *** *** *** 400 200 1EOD
10 *** *** *** 400 200 1EOD
11 *** *** *** 400 200 1EOD
12 *** *** *** 400 200 1ED
13 *** *** *** *** *** 1ED
14 *** *** *** *** *** 1EOD
15 *** *** *** *** *** ****

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