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 what is the best cycle for SIZE??
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BehindYA Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 33) |
posted May 26, 2000 11:05 AM
  
i want to get BIG what to cycle *? IP: Logged |
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micke Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 181) |
posted May 26, 2000 11:12 AM
anadrol 50 for six week. week 1 1tab/day week 2 2tab/day week 3-6 3tab/day and nolva all the time (you gona feel the pump man) later IP: Logged |
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Thick dog Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 297) |
posted May 26, 2000 11:29 AM
Anadrol 50 and Lots of Test. Definately have some nolvadex and clomid on hand. IP: Logged |
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bloatboy35 Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 16) |
posted May 26, 2000 01:15 PM
yeah but won't you loose all of your size using abombs? That's what i always hear. IP: Logged |
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Milk_Man Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 99) |
posted May 26, 2000 02:07 PM
I've never done anadrol. Everything I know tells me the gains from anadrol is all water and intermuscular fat. Now some people will respond different to others and claim that they can keep the gains while others do not. This is because the people that keep gains form more intermuscular fat and others dont form anything but water that they lose. Also Anadrol is the ONLY steroids that is available that WILL cause liver tumors in as little as 50mg/day for 4 weeks or so. This has been documented. Note that tumors are not always cancerous so you lose them. Why anyone would take Anadrol is above me. Intermuscular fat is not that good for you, it will look like muscle but its not. Only good for strenght and I'm not sure if its easy to lose latter on. IP: Logged |
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REF-E-MB Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 29) |
posted May 26, 2000 02:15 PM
If you are a newbie sty away from anadrol--it will fuck you up. I would say to take refovit-b. Great size--i know from personal experience. Expect to keep 20 lbs. of solid gains. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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MattTheSkywalker Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 964) |
posted May 26, 2000 02:23 PM
Bro, the sust/deca/dbol cycle remains a classic for mass. email me and I'll help you set it up. Matt IP: Logged |
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Primo57 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 574) |
posted May 26, 2000 03:12 PM
I've got a good one for you too; consisting of Anadrol/Ref-B/Test Suspension/deca/ and the accessories like clomid and nolva. E-mail at [email protected] IP: Logged |
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demaroid Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 351) |
posted May 26, 2000 05:06 PM
I like Matts combo its an excellent stack that will give you gains that can be kept. I am currently on a sus,cyp,liquid A-50 cycle and blowing up like a mad man. my next one will consist of d-bol,fina,eq. i am experimenting to see what will work best with what and I figured the ultimate would be 50mg of d-bol a day with 300mg of fina a week ending the last four weeks with 400mg of eq. I will try it out and post results. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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jocko Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 142) |
posted May 27, 2000 10:48 PM
www.elitefitness.com/ubb/Archives/Forum1/04-2000/008481.html IP: Logged |
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jettstream Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 254) |
posted May 27, 2000 10:57 PM
nice follow up jocko! jeTT IP: Logged |
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the mechanic Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 217) |
posted May 27, 2000 11:08 PM
I also agree with Matt and the others....sus/deca/d-bol was my first and personal favorite, you will love the results. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Orbitus Teranium Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 74) |
posted May 28, 2000 05:48 AM
Anadrol is the shit I gain atleast 15 pounds everytime I use it and keep it all use with test though. Best bulking cycle 3 A-bombs a day, 2g sust a week, 600mg deca a week, 8IU's HGH a day,and 50mg winny eod, [This message has been edited by Orbitus Teranium (edited May 28, 2000).] IP: Logged |
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delts Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 173) |
posted May 28, 2000 08:44 AM
Good to hear Matt and the mechanic, sus/deca/dbol is my first cycle choice as well. delts ------------------ IP: Logged |
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muscles2 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 178) |
posted May 28, 2000 08:51 AM
SUS/DECCA/D-BOL CVYCLE IS THE ONE I AM ON NOW AND I LOVE IT, I HAVE TRIED ANADROL ALSO BUT HAVE TO SAY THIS CYCLE IS A LOT BETTER AND A LOT LESS WATER RETENTION. TAKE CARE! IP: Logged |
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vdevil Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 690) |
posted May 28, 2000 09:26 AM
Dbol,sustanon,equipoise,and finna Best cycle for mass that won't have you looking like a fat ass with your clothes on. Deca kills your sex drive. Use eq instead. [This message has been edited by vdevil (edited May 28, 2000).] IP: Logged |
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rippazoid Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 43) |
posted May 28, 2000 10:22 AM
sus/d-ball/and either deca or equapoise definately! IP: Logged |
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LBP Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 110) |
posted May 28, 2000 10:29 AM
listen, im telling you, you first need to tell us how long you've been using AS if at all before. DON"T TAKE ANADROL intramuscular fat is gross and tumors is bad period!! plus you bloat, acne pizza greasy face and you loose it all. if you gain 8lbs a wk for 4wks which is the max for usage you'll keep maybe 4lbs. i mean it's shit. and at the one above post who gained 15lbs in whatever off ana ...that sucks i gain like 25-30 using deca/fina/EQ add some sust and you've got yourself a great bulking cycle that gains last. use clomid and nol for it for complications maybe some proviron this shit is expensive though and keep in mind you need to buy mad protein...i find the cheapest is off the internet and i get 3 things of 5lbs of either big whey or prolabs 100% whey concentrait and use 150-200g of protein from that shit i also drink lots of skim milk, yogurt, cottage cheese (fat free) canned tuna, chicken and since you're bulking, you can get away w/ fast food, i go w/ wendy's chicken or taco bell i like big hamburger places too like fuddruckers...you have to slam protein and cals when bulking and don't get discouraged if you gain some fat and minorly bloat, it's common and will go away in the post when you slam the e/c/a stack and the xendrine and the diuretics and maybe some dnp. then hit a hardcore cutting cycle w/ winstrol v and tabs,primo, EQ and maybe if you have enough $$ fina or deca maybe add some clen at the end of it w/ the second cycle you need to cut carbs by 1/4 taking in 1/4 less and fat by at LEAST half, but try getting still that 1.5-2g of protein/lb this will cut you up very good. also run or swim at least 2-3/wk i wouldn't do everyday though cause it's very catabolic hope this helps IP: Logged |
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eclass Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 65) |
posted May 29, 2000 04:24 PM
SUST/DECA/D-BOL 750mg/400mg/6/day 500mg/400mg/6/day 500mg/400mg/5/day 500mg/400mg/4/day 500mg/400mg/4/day 500mg/400mg 500mg/400mg 250mg/400mg clomid and novaldex IP: Logged |
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tom659 Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 41) |
posted May 29, 2000 05:13 PM
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KidRock Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 53) |
posted May 29, 2000 05:40 PM
Interleukin 15 IGF-1 GH This stack is showing great promise as replacing the old bulk up methods. I hear that it will keep you bodyfat levels low throughout the weight gain. That's what I'm talkin about!! By the way......Interleukin is an overseas vet drug. Contact your overseas vet suppliers. Most of them have not even herd of it yet. Call them and request it. A friend in Spain is on it. Once the vets see there is a demand they will stock it...It's used for cattle I believe. IP: Logged |
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Milk_Man Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 99) |
posted May 29, 2000 08:06 PM
Huh? Did you know that loud sound can destroy IGF-1. How about that no one in the medical field has been able to reproduce results showing humans growing off igf-1 nor longR3.IGF-1. So how exactly would one get real IGF-1, store it, and use it in the privacy of their home! They can't unless your some project that has doctors working on you 24 hours per day in some lab that you live in. And Interleukin 15 well, let me just finnish off by saying that the better the drug the worse the side effects whether we know of them or not. IP: Logged |
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xrciseink Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 185) |
posted May 30, 2000 08:47 AM
I believe the question was, what was the best cycle for gaining mass? I know KidRock well, and he is right. Interleukin 15 is showing a lot of promise, and the side effects you stated is pure speculation. IGF-1 is available and is not unstable. Why would people take something that gave them no effects? As far as side effects go.....well that stack has less than deca and sustanon alone. Aside from low fat weight gain. Not to mention Interleukin 15 is'nt even a steroid, and N.I.H. has already done a lot of studies with it. Not trying to flame you. May be your right about IGF-1, but I never have herd that before, but as far as seeing the best gains ever within a short period......Interleukin15, IGF-1, GH....Our friend in Spain has definately seen massive results on this cycle. I did'nt even recognise him..... IP: Logged |
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BehindYA Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 33) |
posted May 30, 2000 08:57 AM
is ifg-1 a good insulin what about humulin R ? SO is ifg 1 dangerous then ? IP: Logged |
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stallion Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 51) |
posted May 30, 2000 02:56 PM
the best cycle for size would have to be the penny farthing. Have you seen the size of the wheel on that bastard? IP: Logged |
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Milk_Man Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 99) |
posted May 30, 2000 03:26 PM
Xrciseink, yes igf-1 is very unstable. If you don't belive me that igf-1 has NOT been shown to cause growth inside a HUMAN body, there have been numerous studies proving this. I do not recall them, but i do know they have been mentioned on UG(use a search function) or ask Dr.Bookworm. Also the studies that have been done that did show IFG-1 causing growth were done on pigs, pigs have a very different ifg-1/gh systems than humans. "Why would people take something that gave them no effects?" Would not be the first time, throw something new on a board and half the members will jump on it. Most people that I have talked to were very disapointed with igf-1. "As far as side effects go.....well that stack has less than deca and sustanon alone." And you know this how? I don't even need to see any side effects to know that everything has a dual nature in this existance.
So? Its not a steroid so its safe, what kind of fucking property is that. Now you could be right and they might work together if you get the igf-1 fast but I've seen to many people claiming how they know some pro and what he takes to beleive anything like that. [This message has been edited by Milk_Man (edited May 30, 2000).] IP: Logged |
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