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Jay Z
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posted May 26, 2000 03:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jay Z   Click Here to Email Jay Z     Edit/Delete Message
Check this out guys, pros and newbies. From now on this is what i think everybody should do to never get gyno.
Always take your clomid (every other day, during, and after cycle) and then take a nolvadex 20mg tab twice a week during and 2 weeks after the cycle(like on a mon and a thurs). I believe this will eliminate the estrogen buildup in the body, and the chances of getting gyno are very slim.
From now on this is what i'm going to do. If anybody disagrees, let me know. I know the nolva might be expensive, but it's worth it. Till now the gains are the same if i hadn't taken it and i feel better knowing that gyno won't get to me.

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Jay Z
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posted May 26, 2000 03:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jay Z   Click Here to Email Jay Z     Edit/Delete Message
forgot to mention, this shouldn't apply to light cycles. i don't do this for primo and winstrol..

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aky
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posted May 26, 2000 03:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aky   Click Here to Email aky     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 45428686
i have gyno... and prob. get the surgery first... and then doing a cycle...

is there a chance of it coming back.. if i do what you suggested...

cause i'm afraid that it will return.... hope not???????

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2Thick
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posted May 26, 2000 03:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 2Thick   Click Here to Email 2Thick     Edit/Delete Message
Or you can buy some Arimidex and never worry about gyno (or money in the bank) again

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Anabolicum Mister
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posted May 26, 2000 07:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Anabolicum Mister   Click Here to Email Anabolicum Mister     Edit/Delete Message
Won't work for deca and anadrol.

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NoviceJuicer
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posted May 26, 2000 09:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NoviceJuicer     Edit/Delete Message
Anabolicum M - What do you personally recommend to prevent gyno with those?

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8man
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posted May 26, 2000 09:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 8man   Click Here to Email 8man     Edit/Delete Message
aky - U got Gyno..right..how was u'r cycle when u got it...and wich dosage. Did u get it in the end of u'r cycle or after ?
Did u use Nolva ?

A lot of questions but i want to do some research on this before i do my next " Hard Cycle"

8man

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Milk_Man
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posted May 26, 2000 11:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Milk_Man   Click Here to Email Milk_Man     Edit/Delete Message
Let me just warn you I used to do clomid every day in my cycles and it screwed up my nuts. They are very small now and don't respond to clomid or hcg. All I hope for is my sperm count is not nill as I want to have childeren some day.

I would take arimidex instead if you can afford it. Clomid is an estrogen and just block stronger estrogens, it wont eliminate them but due to its other functions it will send a signal in your brain to keep aromatase levels a bit down. Now arimidex on the other hand prevents estrogen from forming and is relativly safe as far as I know.

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micke
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posted May 26, 2000 12:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for micke   Click Here to Email micke     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 74213838
bump...

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demaroid
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posted May 26, 2000 01:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for demaroid   Click Here to Email demaroid     Edit/Delete Message
The problem with noveldex is that it hampers gains while on your cycle because it competes for receptors against your gear not just estrogen. Use it only if you need it as it is a waste of time and money to use it on cycle unless there is a valid reason.

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CyrusTheGreat
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posted May 26, 2000 01:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CyrusTheGreat   Click Here to Email CyrusTheGreat     Edit/Delete Message
Does anyone know where you can get arimidex from? online pharm and is it legal?

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Jay Z
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posted May 26, 2000 01:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jay Z   Click Here to Email Jay Z     Edit/Delete Message
a few sources have arimidex, however it's like 1 buck a pill. I haven't experienced reduced gains because of taking nolvadex twice a week. Has anybody? Not just because somebody says so, but for me it doesn't make a difference.

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Milk_Man
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posted May 26, 2000 01:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Milk_Man   Click Here to Email Milk_Man     Edit/Delete Message
Arimidex is about $10 per pill. You get 28 pills for $220 if your lucky.

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dahmer
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posted May 26, 2000 02:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dahmer   Click Here to Email dahmer     Edit/Delete Message
One buck per tab??? If that's the case, I'll take 1000. I think it is about 9-11 per tab. But in case you have a one dollar source, I'll take them. If anyone has a source that will sell Arimidex in BULK for cheap(I mean like 10,000 or more) e-mail me. I have many people that would chip in for that.

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Jay Z
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posted May 26, 2000 02:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jay Z   Click Here to Email Jay Z     Edit/Delete Message
What's the difference between Arimidex and Proviron...Proviron is like 3 bucks a pill (domestic). And you guys were right, i remember it was 7 bucks a pill for arimidex.
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Mr. Nobody
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posted May 26, 2000 03:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mr. Nobody     Edit/Delete Message
why not cytadren and clomid together?

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sicilian
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posted May 26, 2000 03:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sicilian     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 14654041
most believe that 1mg arimidex per week is equal to taking 250mg of cytadren per day...also arimidex at 1mg a week has been shown to free up igf1 levels in your body...do a search on medline for articles on arimidex...there are some good ones

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Monster
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posted May 26, 2000 04:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Monster   Click Here to Email Monster     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 35077339
You can avoid almost all gyno problems by not doing any unneccesary tapers. Dont taper up, and only taper off of drugs that NEED to be tapered off of. If you are going to go from a test ester straight to deca or something, dont taper the test, start the deca and drop the test, then use the deca for the taper. A large amount of people experiance gyno due to FLUCTUATION in testosterone to estrogen ratios. Not just the fact that their test is elevated.
I regularly use 1000mg and up and NEVER use any anti-e's. I take clomid post cycle, and never had a problem, nor do the people I work with who do the same thing...
Just a thought for ya...

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Anabolicum Mister
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posted May 26, 2000 04:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Anabolicum Mister   Click Here to Email Anabolicum Mister     Edit/Delete Message
NoviceJ,

Some people say that winstrol will help prevent progestinic induced gyno. Also, there is a drug called RU486 (i think), a.k.a "the abortion pill". I assume it would be hard to find on the black market though.

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Dutch
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posted May 26, 2000 05:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dutch     Edit/Delete Message
Use Proviron !!!

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aky
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posted May 26, 2000 07:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aky   Click Here to Email aky     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 45428686
i have a large supply of arimidex, nolvadex and clomid..... if i wanted to make sure i never get gyno (after my surgery) how should i take these?? and which ones???

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aky
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posted May 27, 2000 12:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aky   Click Here to Email aky     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 45428686
bump

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Brutis
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posted May 27, 2000 08:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brutis   Click Here to Email Brutis     Edit/Delete Message
bump.

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conan69
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posted May 27, 2000 09:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for conan69   Click Here to Email conan69     Edit/Delete Message
clomid everyother day with nolvadex only when you need it
i use this method (i take high dose cycles)
1 i have no gyno
2 my nuts are fine post cycle
3 it is very inexpensive

so i have done alot of cycles and this has worked the best for me

AND ANABOLICUM it DOES work on anadrol and deca

i think you should check your research or experiences again

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Jeff_rys
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posted May 27, 2000 09:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jeff_rys   Click Here to Email Jeff_rys     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Aky,

even after surgery gyno can come back.

You should watch out with Deca, even taking Clomid.

Jeff

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msg
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posted May 27, 2000 01:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for msg   Click Here to Email msg     Edit/Delete Message
Conan, how can clomid and or nolva prevent gyno on deca when deca induces gyno thru progesteron means - not estrogen? just curious. peace

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Jay Z
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posted May 27, 2000 09:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jay Z   Click Here to Email Jay Z     Edit/Delete Message
What's the difference between proviron and arimidex? I never used both, just clomid and nolva.

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jocko
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posted May 27, 2000 11:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jocko     Edit/Delete Message
www.Arimidex.com

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Joyrider
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posted May 28, 2000 08:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Joyrider   Click Here to Email Joyrider     Edit/Delete Message
I can give you directions for 220$ Arimidex.

KF

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Jay Z
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posted May 28, 2000 10:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jay Z   Click Here to Email Jay Z     Edit/Delete Message
$220 for 30 arimidex pills? That's how much i can get them for right now...how many mg is each pill?

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