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RaverDude
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted May 24, 2000 08:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RaverDude   Click Here to Email RaverDude     Edit/Delete Message
Hi guys. How you doin? This is my second cycle. What do you think?

week 1-3 : 400 mg Enanthate
week 4-7 : 600 mg Enanthate
week 8-10 : 400 mg Enanthate + 200 mg Deca
week 11-13: 200 mg Enanthate + 400 mg Deca
week 14-16: 600 mg Deca
week 17-? : 400 mg Deca

I know, I know, needs more stuff like clomid and shit like that but I cant find it or afford it so fuck it. This is good enough?
You think I need Nolvadex??? Will I have jugs???!!!
OH another thing, is it true you must inject Enanthate or Cypionate every other day to keep the test level high???
I appreciate your Wisdom.

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DREXX
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted May 24, 2000 09:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DREXX   Click Here to Email DREXX     Edit/Delete Message
I am somewhat of a newbie to roidz but 17 weeks seems long. Why such a long cycle?

I prefer doing more frequent shorter cycles...(4-8 weeks on then 8-16 weeks off)

Enanthate and cyp are active in your body for about 7 days at a time so one shot a week is fine.

Your doses seem conservative but right...

This is just my opinion. Get a second opinion.

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delts
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted May 24, 2000 09:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for delts   Click Here to Email delts     Edit/Delete Message
Bro.....that's one long cycle. The general consensus by many of the knowledgable of this board would recommend clomid eod and for two weeks at the end. Would you need nolvadex......depends on many factors......personally I wouldn't do any cycle without having it on hand. Why even RISK the chance of gyno, (cost, embarrassment).Not positive on the half-life of test, but could probably inject once or twice/week and keep it active in your system. Wait for a few more replies, I think they'll back me up here. Good luck.

delts

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RaverDude
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted May 24, 2000 09:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RaverDude   Click Here to Email RaverDude     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks guys, Keepem coming.
I am afraid if I up the doses and shorten the cycle I might get lots of gyno, thats the only thing holding me back. It is fucken long isnt it!
Is Nolvadex prescription or overDAcounter?

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DREXX
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted May 24, 2000 09:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DREXX   Click Here to Email DREXX     Edit/Delete Message
then keep the doses as is and split it up it 2 short 8 week cycles and take 8-16 weeks off in between.

I Recommend taking clomid atleast for 14 days after the cycle at 50mg a day or else you will lose a lot of the gains...

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RC
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posted May 24, 2000 10:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RC     Edit/Delete Message
dude not a flame but if this is your second cycle, how much gains did you keep on your first, seeing as you can't find clomid or don't know how to get nolva,

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RaverDude
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted May 24, 2000 05:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RaverDude   Click Here to Email RaverDude     Edit/Delete Message
Thanx bros. I did some math and edited my cycle:

week 1-2 : 400 mg Test/week
week 4-6 : 600 mg Test/week
week 7 : 400 mg Test + 200 mg Deca
week 8-9 : 200 mg Test/week + 600 mg Deca
week 10 : 400 mg Deca
week 11 : 200 mg Deca

Is this one better? Thanks for your Juice Wisdom.

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elite hot topic
Amateur Bodybuilder
(Total posts: 85)
posted May 24, 2000 05:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for elite hot topic   Click Here to Email elite hot topic     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 24539228
that cycle is looking better.
dont remember when you said that you were going to start the deca but i would start it a little earlier maybe at a lower dose then work up then down.
But you do need the clomid I think everyone agreed.

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big_guy1
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted May 24, 2000 06:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for big_guy1   Click Here to Email big_guy1     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 5126477
too long of a cycle bro..for a newbie..stick with like 8wk, and get clomid, don't "fuck it"...otherwise you will lose your gains..so just send your gear to me....

big-guy

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edogg666
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted May 24, 2000 06:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for edogg666   Click Here to Email edogg666     Edit/Delete Message
I am a newbie also but I would recommed not going over 400mg deca. Start it off in week 2 or 3 and ride it till week 8 of the cycle. As for test run it week 1-6 start high and taper it at the end. Clomid Eod and 2 weeks after the cycle ends. Nolvadex just incase. Just my thoughts, what do the vets think?

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DROP THE HAMMER
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted May 24, 2000 07:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DROP THE HAMMER   Click Here to Email DROP THE HAMMER     Edit/Delete Message
alternate the strenght of the deca.start out heavy than taper off.use clomid at end of cycle for a week to retain some gains...

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The Ranger
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posted May 24, 2000 07:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Ranger   Click Here to Email The Ranger     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 67366885
Remember Enanthate is one of your longer lasting test's.....Clomid is a must for every cycle to keep your natural test levels up, and a must for post cycle at THREE WEEKS!!

Week 1 after last injection...100mg's of clomid ED
Weeks 2 and 3...50mg's Clomid EOD!

Don't want to hear the shit about price....clomid and Nolvadex are very cheap....and a must to have on hand. Keep the nolva handy in case gyno rears it's head....start the deca high at the first week and run it with the test....stop it 2 weeks early and run the test for the last 2 weeks to prevent Deca Dick!!!

If you don't get, and run the Clomid...you WILL most definately CRASH big time at the end of your cycle....It's all good!!!

Ranger

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RaverDude
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted May 24, 2000 07:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RaverDude   Click Here to Email RaverDude     Edit/Delete Message
Thanx a lot bros. Your Wisdom is greatly appreciated. Keepem comin.

Keep lifting>

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RaverDude
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted May 24, 2000 07:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RaverDude   Click Here to Email RaverDude     Edit/Delete Message
can I get Clomid or Nolvadex from a Pharmacy without a prescription or do I have to bust my balls trying to find it on the street??

<Your Wisdom is Greatly Appreciated>

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Krusher
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted May 24, 2000 07:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Krusher   Click Here to Email Krusher     Edit/Delete Message
I would recommend not pyramiding up the test dose, this increases the dreaded estrogen levels, start with your full dose and maintain it then taper down at the end. Shoot it once per week.

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RaverDude
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted May 24, 2000 07:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RaverDude   Click Here to Email RaverDude     Edit/Delete Message
You guys rule man. LONG LIVE JUICEmonkeys. Keep the great wisdom flowing.

Respect to all who bust their balls in the gyms 5 days/wk. RESPECT.

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