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macrophage69alpha Moderator (Total posts: 1460)	posted May 22, 2000 11:41 PM THIS WAS THE MAIN FOCUS OF THE PINS AND YOU TOPIC- BUT IT GOT REAL LONG WITH NO ONE POSTING-SO I THOUGHT IT DESERVED ITS OWN THREAD. NEXT TIME YOU TAKE YOUR MEDICINE PLEASE TIME THE INJECTION. TO GIVE OTHERS AN IDEA AND TO SEE THE VARIATIONS POSSIBLE. RECENT "TWIN" INJECTIONS FRIDAY 4.5CC'S-MIX OF TREN,T1OO AND ULTRAGAN100 USING TERUMO 23G PINS AT 43 SEC-GLUTE SUNDAY 3 CC'S- SAME MIX, TERUMO 25G AT 47 SEC- QUAD ------------------ MP [This message has been edited by macrophage69alpha (edited May 22, 2000).] IP: Logged
macrophage69alpha Moderator (Total posts: 1460)	posted May 23, 2000 12:03 AM BUMP WITH SOME INFO 1. Why do so many people use large gauge needles to inject? this is totally unecessary- almost anything will go through a 25g needle- yet how often, I hear people using 21g or even 20g(cannons). The only reason that I bring this up is that scar tissue can become a big issue with frequent and/or long term use- USE SMALL GAUGE whenever possible- which is all the time- if you are injecting suspension heat it up- it is often granular and if not heated will only go through a large gauge pin. heating it up will cause solute to go into solution. 2. Why is it,or so it seems, that so few use drawing needles? these puppies are cheap 4$ for a hundred. that way the needle you inject with is clean and sharp as can be. not only that you can use a 18g to draw- you can draw up anything with 18g in a matter of seconds. its sterile and makes everything easier. 3. why on earth does anyone re-use needles? Ok, sometimes you run out, this should not happen, but if it does make sure to clean them with alcohol. other wise just order a bunch when you get them, they are pretty cheap and range from 12-28$ per 100 depending on gauge, source and manufacturer. Stock up on pins- dont risk infection for a 25 cent syringe. the doctors visit is going to cost you more than many boxes of pins. 4. injection volume- I often see people posting that they have done several one or two cc injections- heres a little breakdown that may suprise you: glutes- can usually take 5cc per injection quads- 2.5 to 3.5 cc considered safe range delts 2-3 cc considered safe calves- only if you want nerve damage- not advised soviets+ eastern bloc atheletes did 10cc injections into glutes and quads- I dont recommend this but just goes to show the capacity. Peace BTW- scar tissue can limit muscle growth, contractions, flexibility and can result in loss of structural integrity making muscle tears more likely. ------------------ MP IP: Logged
macrophage69alpha Moderator (Total posts: 1460)	posted May 23, 2000 12:13 AM bump with some info on suspension problems Heating of suspension solutions to get all of the solute to go into solution can be done with pan and water or in the microwave just be sure to not over heat- ie. do not boil your solution. tips- if you are going to do it in the syringe- use microwave- out in a small tupperware bowl at an upward slant(so you dont lose any) stabilize- remove pin. nuke- for 4-5 seconds at a time until you get desired results- once you figure out total time you can just throw it in there for 12,15,19,23 etc.. this varies alot because of the wattage variance among microwaves. I would say that on average it take 15-25 sec on high. if you are going to heat up in a multi use vial have everything ready so you can draw and inject before solution cools DO NOT OVERHEAT this may take some time and practice to get your technique down but it will make using suspensions much easier and stop you from getting "clogs" in your pins. ------------------ MP IP: Logged
bigrand Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 68)	posted May 23, 2000 12:36 AM i'll bump for you macro dont wanna see you as the only person replying to your post man! J/K Peace IP: Logged
Jay Z Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 405)	posted May 23, 2000 01:20 AM i use a 21 or 22 gauge... ------------------ Sign the petition now at LegalizeSteroids.com,DecriminalizeSteroids.com, or SignThePetition.com! IP: Logged
macrophage69alpha Moderator (Total posts: 1460)	posted May 23, 2000 02:39 AM hello? since when did this become an orals only board? Every one must be "off-cycle", that must be it- ------------------ MP IP: Logged
bluesy Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 225)	posted May 23, 2000 02:52 AM i use gauge 23 1" to inject in the glute, and a gauge 16 1,5" to draw it up and i never reuse needles or syringe, its to damm cheap for me to do that. Bluesy IP: Logged
SSMAN Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 359)	posted May 23, 2000 02:55 AM I don't cycle....but just like your twin, my twin did a 2 cc injection of sust in the glute using B-D 22g timed at 39 seconds. Time wasn't limited by the size of the pin....I could have gone much faster. My twin tends to get less pain from sust when injected slowly. [This message has been edited by SSMAN (edited May 23, 2000).] IP: Logged
skg Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 49)	posted May 23, 2000 03:42 AM 21 g 2,4 or 5mls 30 minutes IP: Logged
ironmaster Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 60)	posted May 23, 2000 03:50 AM 4cc's test, BD 23 1.5, 60 seconds. I like it slow. Say Macro, how about explaining depoting & crytalization - Not sure I understand it. [This message has been edited by ironmaster (edited May 23, 2000).] IP: Logged
Dutch Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 231)	posted May 23, 2000 04:09 AM I always inject in the quad. I use 0,6 * 25 needles. never more than 2 cc and it takes me about one minute. Dutch IP: Logged
E2 Moderator (Total posts: 3169)	posted May 23, 2000 10:23 AM 22g 1.5in BD in the glute, 3cc's took 25 sec. 22g 1 in bd in the quad 2cc took 20 sec. IP: Logged
demaroid Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 329)	posted May 23, 2000 10:59 AM I did a testex,sust, recipe into my glutes using 23g 1.5 terumo 3cc took 41 sec. I did sus,ultragan into quads 2cc took 34 sec. using same tools. then I popped 50mg of clomid into mouth using right hand=.5 sec. I am thinking of picking up a couple 5cc darts for "experimentation" on a "friend". 2Thick if you read this let us know if you can somehow get a hold of those i would be interested in helping my "friend" try out a few things! ------------------ LIVE MASSIVE!!! D E M A R O I D IP: Logged
Jeff_rys Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 138)	posted May 23, 2000 11:21 AM for oil solution always a 23 gauge. For Winstrol 27 gauge (since here in Belgium I cannot find 28 or 29.) I can find 30 but it costs 3x as much as 27. So I use 27 also for the Lutalyse. Jeff IP: Logged
WarLobo Moderator (Total posts: 471)	posted May 23, 2000 11:26 AM With a 23 and 3cc of sust I will take a solid two min. I go very slow I guess. But no lumb, very little sust limp, and besides, it gives me a few min to talk with my good looking nurse friend who likes to inject for me Sometimes life is just grand! Late Lobo IP: Logged
bad brains Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 549)	posted May 23, 2000 11:28 AM I like the happy 22guage 1.5 inch....so sweet and sharp. ------------------ I against I.........H.R. IP: Logged
Mr. Nobody Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 158)	posted May 23, 2000 11:35 AM 21 1/2, it takes my twin 5 sec to get 3 cc into his quad, but then he has to put the swap on for at least 5 min, to stop the bleeding, and he says it never hurts, he aint a pussy. IP: Logged
Slopain Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 206)	posted May 23, 2000 11:45 AM little cutting cycle I am on timed myself last night: 1.3cc EQ 23g 1.5" 9 secs 1/2cc Winny in my mouth 1 sec. being able to see new muscles, priceless. Jeff_rys: a 30g needle won't bend when you stick it, thats pretty thin bro? Slopain IP: Logged
THOR Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 14)	posted May 23, 2000 11:51 AM 2cc of oil in glute 23g needle 1" 25 seconds. 1cc of oil in quad 23g needle 1" 20 seconds. Start EQ in two weeks will be 2cc in delt 25g needle 5/8" IP: Logged
Juicer56 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 267)	posted May 23, 2000 12:06 PM 3cc-trem,test prop./enan, ultragan 23g 1" 23 sec IP: Logged
Mr. T Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 453)	posted May 23, 2000 12:18 PM 23 gauge 1.5 in glutes, 22 gauge 1.0 for thighs. I take about 1 minute to inject 3 cc's. IP: Logged
Harleyguy Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 113)	posted May 23, 2000 12:35 PM Macro....First off,I'd like you to thank you for another truely informative thread.Your intelligence and ability to write amazes me.We are very fortunate to have you here on this board with us. Terumo 23 gauge 1 inch pins with 2cc's of Primo mixed with 1cc of Deca (drawn with a 18 gauge) injected in the Quad=50 seconds. Terumo 23 gauge 1 inch pin with 1 cc of Winny injected in the Delt=14 seconds. [This message has been edited by Harleyguy (edited May 23, 2000).] IP: Logged
aten8 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 257)	posted May 23, 2000 12:39 PM I agree with you on the drawing needle, I always use one. Pins in Canada are $23/100 23gauge 3cc 1 inch 2cc primo in shoulder took 23 sec. IP: Logged
bgriff Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 167)	posted May 23, 2000 12:44 PM bump IP: Logged
macrophage69alpha Moderator (Total posts: 1460)	posted May 23, 2000 01:45 PM KEEP THOSE REPLIES COMING ------------------ MP IP: Logged
FitnessChick Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 368)	posted May 23, 2000 02:45 PM i am off now but i will bump 4 u IP: Logged
BETHEMAN1DAY Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 58)	posted May 23, 2000 02:46 PM I'M GALD YOU POSTED THIS...I USE A 21 GUAGE 1" AND A 1/4 PIN. NEVER A PROBLEM WITH MY E.Q (VERY EASY AND SMOOTH) NOW I HAVE TRIED THE SAME PINS WITH MY NEW TEST..IT'S UNI-TEST A WHITE CHALKY 100 MG TEST SUPENSION. THE PROBLEM IS IT DRAWS FINE BUT IT ACTS LIKE THE PIN IS GLOGGED AND IT WONT COME BACK OUT. (DONT TELL ME I NEED A LARGER PIN THAN A 21 GUAGE) THIS HAS HAPPEND TWICE NOW AND ITS THE FIRST TIME I HAVE ACTUALLY HAD TEST AND IM PISSED ABOUT THE WHOLE DEAL. ANY HELP BRO'S WOULD AND WILL BE GREATLY ACCEPTED,,,,,,,,,,,,,, IP: Logged
SSMAN Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 359)	posted May 23, 2000 06:49 PM back to the top you go!! IP: Logged
macrophage69alpha Moderator (Total posts: 1460)	posted May 24, 2000 01:02 AM tuesday "twin" is at it again terumo 25g 3cc tren,t100,ultragan 52 sec quad-left this time ------------------ MP IP: Logged
scarface1 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 124)	posted May 24, 2000 01:14 AM I am off right now but, I use a 3cc 23g 1.5" in the glutes. Usaully takes around 20-30s ------------------ scarface "The world is yours" IP: Logged
Kry Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 119)	posted May 24, 2000 07:30 AM 3cc of primo, 22 1/2 guage and 1 1/2 inch 6cc syringe took 45 seconds in the ass. [This message has been edited by Kry (edited May 24, 2000).] IP: Logged
Arminius Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 70)	posted May 24, 2000 03:26 PM Right Delt 23g 1 Inch 1cc, 50mg Equipoise Fort Dodge. 20 seconds... I prefer it slow too.. Arminius.. IP: Logged
Rock_Man Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 417)	posted May 24, 2000 03:37 PM 23 gauge T's 1.5" in the ass about 25 sec. Hit a guiser last night though! Blood poured out. I've heard it happen to others and have finally experienced it myself. ------------------ Rock On! IP: Logged
quenepo Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 452)	posted May 24, 2000 03:45 PM I like 23g x 1.5 3cc BD,I never reuse it. quenepo IP: Logged
LEGEND Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 62)	posted May 24, 2000 04:12 PM i use a 3cc 22 guage 2 1/2" pin am i the only one who goes right down to the end with it also.......2 1/2" all the way in!!!! IP: Logged
hellraisr Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 16)	posted May 24, 2000 04:39 PM I just got done loading my darts. 1.5" 22g BD 3cc of for glute, about 1 min to inject it. 1" 23g BD 2cc of Eq for delt, about 30-40sec to inject! 1"" 23g BD 2cc of T200 for delt, about 30sec to inject. I do this twice a week. IP: Logged
Komo Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 163)	posted May 24, 2000 04:55 PM 21g 1.5" 2cc deca The whole procedure takes about 3 minutes! /Komo IP: Logged
niko1015 Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 48)	posted May 24, 2000 06:19 PM B-D 22g 1in 2cc in the glute, 25 sec's IP: Logged
joker Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 143)	posted May 24, 2000 08:23 PM Gee, I never have timed it but I ahve used three different sized pins on this cycle. I like the 25 1.5". My sust and deca flow through those slowly but surely, of course I heat them up by running under warm water first. 2cc of deca takes me about 45 seconds and 1cc of sust goes in about 30 seconds. Never bled using the 25g pins. IP: Logged
BigCatratcho Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 369)	posted May 24, 2000 08:38 PM I once read a story about a guy who.. 23g 3ccs Eq (warmed up) 20-30 sec 23g 1cc sus, 2ccprimo 20-30 sec sometimes I hit a "wall" and have to push harder. Must be my, er I mean the guy's granite-like glutes ------------------ -bighonduran "tank tops are for medium sized guys..." IP: Logged
BillyBadAss Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 81)	posted May 24, 2000 09:05 PM I inject 5cc's every five days. I use 23g pins. Always in the glutes, it takes me about five minutes to load up and inject. Here's some info about embolysms<sp> i've heard it takes 10ml of air to cause one. this can easily be avoided by turning the pin up in the air and tapping out all the air bubbles and then releasng any air untill a drop of juice runs down the edge of the needle. Just dont inject three times a day with a 10cc needle and you'll be fine. IP: Logged
Natural Wonder Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 301)	posted May 25, 2000 02:01 AM Used 22g for my first shot, 2cc deca IP: Logged
BIG TOE Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 18)	posted May 25, 2000 11:07 AM 21 gauge 3cc deca / sust, took 20 seconds. IP: Logged
Slopain Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 206)	posted May 25, 2000 11:13 AM Reguarding drawing out needles: I have used them and although they draw out a little quicker (at 18g) it seems to make holes at the top of the bottle, not noticable to after about 4-5 times of drawing out - anyway I live someplace where I need to hide my stuff and it soetimes gets topsy-turvy and some will spill out from the 18g needle holes in the rubber. Anyone else have this problem? Slopain IP: Logged
Jeff_rys Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 138)	posted May 25, 2000 04:09 PM Joker, if you never bled using a 25 gauge, it's because you never went through a vein. I bled sometimes using a 30 gauge recently bought, altough it costs 3x the price of a 27 gauge. Jeff IP: Logged

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