posted May 22, 2000 12:36 PM            

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I did some research on the rhgh made by Sereno Labs and I thought a few guys would like to know this. Serostim comes with sterile water to mix with. Even after refrigerating, it degrades very rapidly after 24 hours.It can even give you a nasty rash or worse.
Saizen (same rhgh, different name)comes with bacteriolstic water with 9% benzyl alcohol. After mixing it will refrigerate for 15 days.
So if you bought a Serostim "Kit"and used the sterile water, you probably got minimal results! If you can get bacteriolstaic water(requires a script in the US, not in Canada)
mix it with that at it will last 15 days refrigerated..

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posted May 22, 2000 12:44 PM            

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Yup,

i guess e2 is going to get some more mail now. heh heh

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posted May 22, 2000 01:01 PM            

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good heads up bro

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posted May 22, 2000 01:20 PM            

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SAIZEN comes with bacteriostatic water?
Some eastern HGH doesn't come with any.

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posted May 22, 2000 01:51 PM            

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How can you keep repeating this total bullshit, this has been covered 100 times before. Serono Serostim which comes with steril water for injection lasts more than 24 hours after its mixed and put into a refrigirator. I would say it lasts at least 7 days before it starts to lose its potency. Now Mr. Growth Hormone where the fuck did you get that it breaks down after 24 hours, WHERE? It says on the box that it should be used up within 24 hours, not that it will break down. This product was manufacted for AIDS patients. After 24 hours the product starts getting bacterial growth, anything does if it has steril water in it. If you got aids you can't handle any bacteria no matter how small the amount is so that is why. learn or shut the fuck up. Serono's growth hormone steril water or not is good for 7 days after mixture and refrigiration unless you got aids.

[This message has been edited by Milk_Man (edited May 22, 2000).]

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posted May 22, 2000 05:41 PM            

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Dear Milk man,
Here's the number to Sereno Labs. Since your so good at name calling, let's see how big your balls really are. Call them and post us as to what you find out. 1-800-283-8088.
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see the difference here. Hgh is a breeding ground for bacteria, and no matter how careful you are, a contamination and breakdown will occur. Why do you think one comes with sterile water and one comes with bacteriolstatic water? One says use in 24 hours, one says good for 14 days refrigerated?

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posted May 22, 2000 07:02 PM            

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Milk man i right. Dave Polumbo used to be one of the top advocates of the Bac stat water. In fact, he is the reason that I have so much of that shit now. Then he was able to to a researcher at the lab. He was told that the bacterial growth DOES NOT effect the GH with in a week. The reason for the 24hr things is because when used on aids patience they are much more sensitive to any bacterial growth due to there weakened immune system. Not because the gh is less effective. So to ward off any possible law suits the party line is 24hrs. I don't think you can call the 800 number and get a straight answer. I think they will tell you what will ward off any possible litigation. You can read more of what he said at the meso web site. You can also get his email there.

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posted May 22, 2000 07:30 PM         

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Seristim lasts MORE than 24 hrs.It is for INSURANCE reasons. I know a pro in my area who talked to a rep at Serano and told them it was for BB.

J

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posted May 22, 2000 07:35 PM            

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correct, the hgh will still last at least 4-5 days while in sterile water. remember the dosage for aids patients is one full bottle per day (18 iu's). they also say 24 hours for legal reasons as stated above. my take is this, one should not be doing any less than 9 iu's a day anyways, so there is no worry using saline water. if you do decide to make a bottle last 4 days, you should not really worry about it. remember, any less than 9 iu's is a waste of $$$$$ unless you are over 45 yrs of age.

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posted May 22, 2000 07:56 PM            

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Pops, why is it a waist? Whats wrong with 4.5 IU 4 days on/ 3 off for 3 months. Long term, shorter doses. Did lower doses not work for you?

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posted May 22, 2000 09:42 PM            

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This is all about marketing and liability. A few days' worth of bacterial growth will not cause harm in a healthy human, nor is it likely that it will degrade the GH too rapidly. Unless you have AIDS, I think you're perfectly safe refrigerating after reconstitution for at least a week (although it's unlikely anyone would need to keep it that long).

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posted May 23, 2000 02:10 AM            

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Guys,
Just do yourselves a favor and buy the Humatrope by Lilly. It's the best there is. You will not have to worry then if it is working or not. You will know either way. You just have to use a reconstituted bottle in 14 days. If it is lasting longer than 3 days you are not using enough anyway.

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posted May 23, 2000 02:12 AM            

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i dont' have aids...

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posted May 23, 2000 07:22 AM            

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Here is the Lilly site on Humatrope http://humatrope.lilly.com/adults.htm
There is a lot of info here including dosage's. Adult growth hormone deficiency dosage is on there to. The 9i.u.'s a day some of you guys swear by is not to be found. However, this dosage seems to make the guys taking it happy, and I can respect that without name calling.Here is a site that discusses everything you might want to know about growth hormone. http://www.onelist.com/subscribe/rejuvenation

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