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coolhandluke
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posted May 17, 2000 08:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for coolhandluke   Click Here to Email coolhandluke     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 47436318
Ok, i changed my cycle a bit because many of you thought there was too much dbol and not enough test. Here it is. I will be taking clomid ed and two weeks at 100mg and one at 50mg post cycle.
Omna��.Deca��Dbol��Para�..Primo

750���. 400��.60mg
750���..400��.50mg
750���..400��.35mg
750���..400��.25mg
750���..400������.1amp
750���..400������.2amps
500���..400������.2amps
250���..300������.2amps
�����...300����������....200mg
�����...200����������....400mg
�����������������........400mg
.........................200mg

[This message has been edited by coolhandluke (edited May 17, 2000).]

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The Ranger
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posted May 17, 2000 08:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Ranger   Click Here to Email The Ranger     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 67366885
I LIKE IT ALOT!!! God what I'd give just to see real para....shit...it's been years Bro.
Love the doses of test....hell Lukeman, try a gram the first week or two....deca doses are rocking Bro!!
Real para and primo to harden....keep gains, and act as a anticatabolic....yup....way cool Lukeman!!
I like how your doing the clomid throughout the cycle and post cycle...I wish on my last cycle I'd have done the clomid ed....live and learn....!!

I think you'll be even huger than ya are....is that a word?

Ooop's there goes my eyebrow again......!!!

It's all good Bro!!

Ranger

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300 kleen
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posted May 17, 2000 08:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 300 kleen   Click Here to Email 300 kleen     Edit/Delete Message
The only thing that I would change is the Primo. I would taper it a little better at the end.

Looks good Mr. Luke!

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coolhandluke
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posted May 17, 2000 08:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for coolhandluke   Click Here to Email coolhandluke     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 47436318
ok, now i have to buy to more priom amps because of you.....are you happy now mr. kleen?

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The Ranger
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posted May 17, 2000 09:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Ranger   Click Here to Email The Ranger     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 67366885
Quit whining Luke...what do they cost you in Hungry....3 cents an amp!!...hahahahahahahah!!!

Ranger

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ryry
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posted May 17, 2000 09:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ryry   Click Here to Email ryry     Edit/Delete Message
i'm just wondering, how come you have to take clomid ed instead of eod. just curious if i need to do that on my own cycle coming up

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coolhandluke
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posted May 17, 2000 09:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for coolhandluke   Click Here to Email coolhandluke     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 47436318
just being cautious i guess....

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ItalianSweetness
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posted May 18, 2000 02:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ItalianSweetness     Edit/Delete Message
I am going to do something very similiar to that of your cycle come winter. Will probably substitute the sus for the omna and throw out the para because there is no real para. Seems to be a good cycle with good tapering. good luck.

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macrophage69alpha
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posted May 18, 2000 02:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for macrophage69alpha   Click Here to Email macrophage69alpha     Edit/Delete Message
I would go with clomid EOD- your test doses are not that high unless you are VERY prone to gyno.

I like the para- but fina is cheaper- plus you get the fun of making it yourself. plus short acting.

I am not a fan of Deca- I would sub in EQ

I am not particularly fond of a test that is SUST only- I would change to sust every 3 days and 100mg propionate eod- that up your test to 800mg every 6 days plus blood levels are easier to manage with frequent propionate injections- I do not like the long acting esters of sustanon- especially becuase their release pattern varies so much from individual to individual. plus sustanon is expensive- an even better substitution would be Prop EOD at 250 or 300mg.

the problem with long acting esters of any kind is that it is harder to instinctively adjust your cycle and if you are getting unwanted side effects it is harder to discontinue whatever may be the source of those side effects.

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macrophage69alpha
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posted May 18, 2000 02:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for macrophage69alpha   Click Here to Email macrophage69alpha     Edit/Delete Message
oh, I forgot- get rid of the tapering- that just means longer on with less results as far as I am concerned.

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big_guy1
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posted May 18, 2000 02:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for big_guy1   Click Here to Email big_guy1     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 5126477
hey..i liek it..don't forget clomid duringa nd psot cycle...I would change the primo though and go 400-400-200-200..better for the taper...

big-guy

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the truth
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posted May 18, 2000 03:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for the truth   Click Here to Email the truth     Edit/Delete Message
I prefer going off the deca before going off the test. I also see no need to taper anything the way you have the cycle constructed. It's a good solid cycle, though; I was just stating my personal preferences.

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Dexter
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posted May 18, 2000 03:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dexter   Click Here to Email Dexter     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 71953041
Luke, I like your cycle. It's pretty close to the one I'm currently on (and finishing up with Para and Primo).

Although I am no cycle expert, I agree that extending the Primo would be better. And I'm now a believer in the Clomid EOD and End-of-Cycle strategy. It can't hurt.

Something Macro said got me thinking. You obviously have access to good Omnadren.

But, if you would consider a change I've found something I could recommend. It's getting some serious attention.

It's called Testenat (or testoenatum), 100 mg/ml amps. It's a blend of 80% test enanthate and 20% test propionate. It's clean, cheap, and available in your part of Europe I'm sure. Just a thought. My next cycle is going to use Testenat as the test base.

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JuiceBoy
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posted May 18, 2000 03:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JuiceBoy   Click Here to Email JuiceBoy     Edit/Delete Message
nice lookin cycle bro but be warned, rumours are runnin rampant that testanet is fake, atleast most of it floatin around, be careful, play it safe adn stick with the omnadren it's better than that sten like stuff anyways

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Rich1
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posted May 18, 2000 04:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rich1   Click Here to Email Rich1     Edit/Delete Message
Man, that is one of a hell big cycle, your already huge from the sound of it, your gonna make Ronny Colemen look small, just kidding. But we all would like to know how much you put on with this cycle, god damn thats one hell of a big cycle, man I wish I had the dough for that if it didn't kill me out right...

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Dexter
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posted May 18, 2000 04:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dexter   Click Here to Email Dexter     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 71953041
JuiceBoy, are we referring to the same thing? I was referring to Testenat (actually Cyrillic lettering), which may be different than what you described.

It's manufactured by Farmadon in Rostov-on-Don, Russia. I've got boxes of the stuff.

Russian ampules are normally quite distinct, taller than most with no apparent snapping point. If you or anyone knows of fake Testenat, or has a picture of the amp, I'd be curious.

Damn, I really don't wanna have to submit yet another drug for lab testing...

I think I'll post a message on the Counterfeit Board.

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coolhandluke
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posted May 18, 2000 07:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for coolhandluke   Click Here to Email coolhandluke     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 47436318
ok, guys. i'm gonna start with two weeks of 1000mg and taper off wit primo for about five weeks. Check this out:

this is what i need:

omnadren 250: 23amps
deca-durabolin:17 vials (norma)
dbol: ca. 250tabs
parabolan: 7 amps
primobolan:19amps (100mg)
clomid: min. 90tabs
nolvadex: min 30tabs (20mg)
clenbuterol: 50-100tabs


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conan69
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posted May 18, 2000 08:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for conan69   Click Here to Email conan69     Edit/Delete Message
Looks real good i like it alot better with the 1 gram of sust

so how much does that all cost you
just curious
shoot us a figure

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coolhandluke
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posted May 18, 2000 08:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for coolhandluke   Click Here to Email coolhandluke     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 47436318
all in all no more than 250$. i buy in bulk,barter and run errands for sources...heh heh


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Dexter
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posted May 18, 2000 09:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dexter   Click Here to Email Dexter     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 71953041
Have fun, Luke. That cycle seems to me like a prescription for happiness.

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ryry
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posted May 18, 2000 01:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ryry   Click Here to Email ryry     Edit/Delete Message

holy shit thats fucking cheap! $250 bucks for all that. that would easily cost $2000 where i'm at. i need to move where you live man...haha

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Bossman
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posted May 18, 2000 01:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bossman     Edit/Delete Message
The only thing I would change is the d-bol. Everyone has their own opinion, but I read studies that said anything over 50 gives no additional effect and that most people only need 40 max. I'm sure some will disagree but that's my 2 cents

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Karate guy
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posted May 18, 2000 02:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Karate guy   Click Here to Email Karate guy     Edit/Delete Message
Your cycle looks good luke, How big you plan on gettin? hehe, check your e-mail

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