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LBP
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posted May 17, 2000 05:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LBP   Click Here to Email LBP     Edit/Delete Message
the defn. of steroid is any one of a large class of structurally related compounds conaining the carbon ring of the sterols, which is any one of a group of solid, chiefly unsaturated alcohols, such as ergosterol or cholesterol, present in animal and plant tissues, and including sterols, various hormones, saponins, and acids found in bile.
although, a beta antanganist it does promote mild strength gains and has been proven to alter hormone levels in clinical studies. THIS IS WHY IT IS NOT RECOMMEND BY ANYONE WHO KNOWS WHAT THEY"RE TALKING ABOUT BETWEEN CYCLES!! ur goal is to clean out your receptors and let them recover which clen doesn't do!! it keeps them working
it is just like tapering down really low on steroids, but not going off for 2-3months, and tapering back up which is bad for your liver and kidneys

let me also mention that thyroid hormones promote muscular weakness
im not against AS, im just against people misinforming others...ok im through now

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Frackal
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posted May 17, 2000 05:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Frackal   Click Here to Email Frackal     Edit/Delete Message
So would that include ECA also?

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Frackal
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posted May 17, 2000 05:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Frackal   Click Here to Email Frackal     Edit/Delete Message
More specifically ephedrine, since it's a beta antagonist?

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macrophage69alpha
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posted May 17, 2000 05:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for macrophage69alpha   Click Here to Email macrophage69alpha     Edit/Delete Message
clenbuterol is not an anabolic steroid- it is not a steroid, it is not a sterol, it does not mimic or bind to the same receptors as steroids, anabolic or otherwise, do.

clenbuterol anabolic effects are related to its beta adrenergic activation .

I have seen no evidence that clebuterol or other beta agonists affect hormone levels. Pls post any studies that indicate other wise.

clenbuterol is an excellent drug to use between cycles. it helps you to maintain hard earned muscle and lose fat.

clenbuterol has absolutely no effect on Androgen receptors.

should you wish to dispute anything contained herein I am more than willing to listen to your arguments- though from what I have seen your statements have no basis in science or reality for that matter.

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Ballard
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted May 17, 2000 05:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ballard   Click Here to Email Ballard     Edit/Delete Message
I've been on Armour (organic T3/T4) for several years to maintain TSH between 1.0-2.0 and have built significant muscle and strength since being diagnosed hypothyroid. I never took Cytomel and never exceeded 18 mcg per day on Armour.

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LPB:
let me also mention that thyroid hormones promote muscular weakness

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TwinGATs
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posted May 17, 2000 05:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TwinGATs   Click Here to Email TwinGATs     Edit/Delete Message
Clen isn't a steriod....It will only cause strenght gains in animals

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macrophage69alpha
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posted May 17, 2000 05:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for macrophage69alpha   Click Here to Email macrophage69alpha     Edit/Delete Message
clenbuterol and other beta agonist will increase strength by stimulation of the nervous system- stronger, faster, more forceful contractions. this is why it is banned for use among track atheletes in particular.

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TwinGATs
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posted May 17, 2000 06:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TwinGATs   Click Here to Email TwinGATs     Edit/Delete Message
Clen is not anabolic. At least not in humans. The studies that show clenbuterol to be anabolic were done in animals such as cows and chickens. Clenbuterol is a beta-antagonist to adrenic receptors. It blocks these receptor sites. The anabolic action of clenbuterol is though to be because of antagonism occurring on 4th beta-adrenic receptor (b4); humans do not have sufficient amounts of these receptors to be comparable to animals. Clenbuterol is a nutrient partitioning agent and may promote lean muscle growth by "directing" nutrients to that end, but there is no anabolic action that is comparable to steroids.

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FitnessChick
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posted May 17, 2000 06:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FitnessChick     Edit/Delete Message
thank you for that clarification...i said it wasnt in the topic whats your fave as...& lpb disagreed with me....so thanks for setting the record straight macro......

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Puc
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posted May 17, 2000 07:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Puc   Click Here to Email Puc     Edit/Delete Message
I love it when mac does that...

hehehehe...


Puc

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