posted May 16, 2000 10:30 PM            

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I'm currently doing a cycle of sus and dbol. I'm in my 6th week and I have been doing the dbol for a week now at 30mg a day. I have gained about 30 pounds so far. My question is, how hard do I need to work my abs and how many times a week? I'm getting roid gut and can't stand it. Also, should I just wait until after my cycle is complete to do my ECA stack to lose the fat and then maybe define my abs?

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posted May 16, 2000 10:46 PM            

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Just a note about defeniton in the abs: For the averaged male to see defenition in the abs he must lower his bodyfat below 10 %...Im not sure where your at, but I imagine that after some ECA and good dieting after your cycle you will have a better chance at getting what your looking for....hope this helps..

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posted May 16, 2000 10:48 PM            

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well I'm a pretty small guy - I started my cycle at 122lbs 5' 7" and now I'm 152 - I have always been in really good shape and never had a problem with my gut until I started on juice - I take weight gainer and protein shakes - should I lay off the weight gainer?

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posted May 16, 2000 10:57 PM         

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Why did you wait so late to start your D? Why didn't you use it at first to kickstart yourself till the test started working? Just curious if you had a specific reason for it.

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posted May 16, 2000 11:07 PM            

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I didn't use it at first because I'm going to use it for the last 3 weeks of my cycle. I don't want to take it for over 3 weeks

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posted May 16, 2000 11:17 PM            

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Hey bro go to low carbs and stop the weight gainer it's loaded to the gills with carbs, I'm 5'4" started out at 127 and hit 140 last cycle, high protein low carbs went from 15% BF to 8% BF, sus 500 mg a week 200mg deca, should have upped the deca, but I didn't want deca dick, oh well we learn by doing..Hope that helps bro. Next cycle is nine weeks of primoteston 250 @ 750 mg a week then 300 mg of Ultragan 100 for three weeks while finishing up the primo, then three weeks or more of clomid 100 mg a day for week one then 50 mg a day till I runout. should hit 160 plus, then I'm going to get ripped and lean out again...want to hit 7% BF when finally done.. later.

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posted May 17, 2000 12:00 AM            

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bump

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posted May 17, 2000 12:02 AM            

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The gut is from the water retention (from the D-Bol and Sus). It will go away after your cycle is finished. Just remember to use clen post-cycle.

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posted May 17, 2000 12:04 AM            

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D-bol and abs is not something you hear in the same sentence very often.
Will

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posted May 17, 2000 12:07 AM            

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hell before I started I had abs - now they are gone!! I don't want to work them too hard because I don't want my abs to overlook my chest.

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posted May 17, 2000 12:07 AM            

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Heh heh i'm in the same boat, my abs are off on vacation right now, but dont' worry they'll be back soon, just some cardio and some clen away.

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posted May 17, 2000 12:11 AM            

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well ya see I don't know if I can get clen bro's - I have an ECA stack ready for post cycle.....neeeeeeeed abbbbbbbbsssss....

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posted May 17, 2000 01:10 AM            

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Dont sweat it so much Bro,

It happens..hell man when I bulk up, I get FAT..and I kinda like..I eat like a horse..and grow...like E2 said..your abs are only some cardio away. Hell have fun while you can eat..I envy you right now..and as for what was said above...do not cut your carbs down..you say youve put on 30lbs already and thats kick ass...so keep pushing the damn envelope youll be glad you did.

EAT,GROW, ABS later,
WCP

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posted May 17, 2000 01:52 AM         

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Hey it was really good to hear all this today as I have become pretty used to having abs and suddenly they are gone as I am gaining weight quickly. I was kinda put off looking at myself in a t-shirt today - frankly look fat - but as long as we're all on the same page...I guess I'll live.

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posted May 17, 2000 06:57 AM            

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as 2thick said its water retention the main culpret will be the dbol when i take dbol my gut swells up like fuck i got from 35in wasit to about 38 thats life on juice m8

anyway you must eat to enough calories to gain you cannot be frightend of getting fat if your a body builder cut up in the summer and mass up winter i often gain an extra 3 stone in winter and diet it off for summer.

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posted May 17, 2000 10:12 AM            

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I'd say between your eating habits on a mass cycle and the gear your using your a water balloon. Clean up you diet and increase water intake to the point you think your going to die to reverse you aldosterone levels and you'll notice some definition change from less water retention. Considering what your using I personally would say the hell with it and enjoy the gains.....you can cut up later!!

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posted May 17, 2000 03:40 PM            

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thanks for the info guys

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posted May 17, 2000 03:53 PM         

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abs! what abs, i haven't seen mine it over two months. i'm cutting right now so their starting to come out again. then i'm going to load again... fuck i hate losing my abs, when does the cycle end!

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