posted May 16, 2000 05:27 AM         

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Let me tell you what happened on my last cycle (I am 6ft0, 3 years natural):

sust deca diana GH body weight
750 600 30 200
500 400 30 213
500 400 30 6 227
500 400 30 6 238
stopped...

Every day: 120 mg of vanadyl sulphate (could not find insulin), plus about 7000 kcals in 8 meals.

As you see, I had an enormous weight increase, but with such a large water retention that I had to quit the cycle. Almost instantly I dropped 18 lbs of water and felt good again. From GH I got extra water retention in my hands and feet, and my fingers felt numb, not nice if you cannot feel the bar in your hands. Anyway, after quitting I remained 220 lbs. Maybe you guys can learn from this?

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posted May 16, 2000 07:43 AM            

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were you takning any anti-e's?
some say it helps with the water

but up38 and done 18 for 20 is pretty good
i would take that

also what kind of GH and why was your GH so short???

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posted May 16, 2000 10:52 AM         

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I used 25 mg of proviron per day as anti-estrogen.

The GH was so short, because of the water retention, it was just too much.

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