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funkoram Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 10)	posted May 15, 2000 01:32 PM weeks 1-5 sustanon 500mls weeks 3-8 deca 400mls weeks 7-10 clomid 50mgs eod calories 4700 a day protein 320 grams a day, I weigh 185lbs thanks for the help guys I really appreciate it. IP: Logged
Quadzilla43 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 383)	posted May 15, 2000 01:42 PM u may want to take clomid eod throughout. do a search on deca dick and youll find out why. ur cals and protein look good, as do ur dosages of deca and sus. like i said, the only thing i would reconsider is taking clomid eod throughout at 50mg eod and then for one week after the cycle ends take 100mg ed and for another week take 50mg ed. ------------------ In Quad We Trust. IP: Logged
alwaysniceguy Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 100)	posted May 15, 2000 01:46 PM damn! someone finally sees the need for protein. YIPPEE!! I know u VETS do, but for a new guy, that just needs to be commended. Now,I would try, if u can, to add the SUST for at least 8 wks, 10 if u have the $$ One way to help this is buy starting wk1- at 250, especially if this is ur first cycle ever. you will be nervous as all get out. 500 a wk looks good, i did 500 per wk for 10 wks and wished i had gone higher, but hey. try to add another 3 wks of sust to give u 8 wks, AT LEAST. which, if u do the 1st wk at 250, all u need is to get ur hands on another 1250. I like the deca, but think u should start it the same time as the SUST. Deca takes(took me about 6 wks)about 4-6 wks to really start kicking in. 400 straight through looks good. if u wanted, u could even do 200 the first wk and 200 the last wk to help tapper it, and that would lengthen it a bit. clomid, to be honest, i have used both deca and sust. and didnt need it. sust. is self-tappering so u dont need it, but its up to you. i know alot agree with me on this, but I also know guys that take clomid year round, so go figure. as for deca, if u taper it a bit, you won't need clomid either. its not a strong AS like straight T200 or T50 is. so you should be fine there. and if ur worried about deca dick, stacking it with SUST. will keep that from happening. But, if u have all that already, use it if u want. there is no need to run clomid for 4wks. Do it for 10-14 days.50 for 5-7 days then 25 for the last 5-7 days. Dont worry about your caloric intake if your trying to gain size. Worry about your protein consumption. And it looks good!! VERY happy to see you have that nailed!! Also, take a B4 pic so we ( i mean You) can see your progress. just my 0.02 NICE ------------------ Life is too short to be small. IP: Logged
tessai Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 18)	posted May 15, 2000 01:50 PM Overkill! There is no way you need anywhere close to that amount of caloric intake and 320 grams get real! If you like your kidneys treat them right, this is beyond their capability and you will likey induced severe ph imbalances. Begin with your lean body weight and aim at 1.5 grams per lean body mass and 800-1000 calories above you daily should be ample. More is better is a philosophy which creates imbalances and when your body moves to create homestasis a civil war will ensue. Try to approach excess without being obsessive. IP: Logged
Thick dog Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 87)	posted May 15, 2000 01:55 PM Everything looks good, maybe stay on test for 8weeks. clomid EOD starting second week and every day for 2 weeks after. IP: Logged
E2 Moderator (Total posts: 2994)	posted May 15, 2000 03:27 PM Tessai you're wrong. IP: Logged
Slim Whitman Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 164)	posted May 15, 2000 03:43 PM You beat me too it E2!! Explain your "theory" for your claims on protein and cals. No flame intended, just curious... Slim IP: Logged
funkoram Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 10)	posted May 15, 2000 03:45 PM thanx for the positive feedback guys. By the way, I am also drinking a gallon of water a day along with primrose oil to protect my liver and kidneys. I'll post my progress at the end of my cycle. Thanks again "may the funk be with you" IP: Logged

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