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glenbenton
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posted May 14, 2000 07:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for glenbenton   Click Here to Email glenbenton     Edit/Delete Message
hey has anyone tried armidex and does it acutally shrink the lumps under the nipples? i am seeing my doctor soon and i want to know for sure if its worth while to get a perscription. will this stuff acutally destroy the breast tissue. im looking for something to make it less apparent cause it is summer and i would like to not be embarrased

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glenbenton
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posted May 14, 2000 08:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for glenbenton   Click Here to Email glenbenton     Edit/Delete Message
bump for the oldbies

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The Ranger
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posted May 14, 2000 08:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Ranger   Click Here to Email The Ranger     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 67366885
It is my understanding that it may shrink it some...but it will lower the aromatase by around 70% or so....

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The Ranger
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posted May 14, 2000 08:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Ranger   Click Here to Email The Ranger     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 67366885
It is my understanding that it may shrink it some...but it will lower the aromatase by around 70% or so....

Ranger

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The Ranger
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posted May 14, 2000 08:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Ranger   Click Here to Email The Ranger     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 67366885
It is my understanding that it may shrink it some...but it will lower the aromatase by around 70% or so....

Ranger

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The Ranger
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posted May 14, 2000 08:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Ranger   Click Here to Email The Ranger     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 67366885
It is my understanding that it may shrink it some...but it will lower the aromatase by around 70% or so....

Ranger

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300 kleen
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posted May 14, 2000 08:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 300 kleen   Click Here to Email 300 kleen     Edit/Delete Message
There is no pharmaceutical drug that is known to reduce preexisting gyno. There are some rumors that nolvadex may help, but it's just a rumor. Surgery is the only effective option.

Good luck.

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Twisted_Steel
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posted May 14, 2000 08:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twisted_Steel     Edit/Delete Message
No Anti-Aromatase will shrink existing gyno. Arimidex is the strongest anti-estrogen on the market. Its expensive as hell, but it's Novaldex to the 3rd power. Great for hardening precontest

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macrophage69alpha
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posted May 14, 2000 09:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for macrophage69alpha   Click Here to Email macrophage69alpha     Edit/Delete Message
ARIMIDEX has been shown to reduce existing gyno, in some cases almost to the point of nullity- however, if you are predisposed and fail to take the proper precautions it will return.
arimidex is a very powerful aromatase inhibitor it is also site specific- it reduces total aromatase activiy by 70% but it reduces breast tissue aromatase activity to almost nil.

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SlaveMaker
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posted May 14, 2000 09:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SlaveMaker     Edit/Delete Message

I know for a fact it WILL reduce the actual swollen gland aspect to a certain degree. It will not cause any reduction of fatty tissue that results from gyno.

If glandular tissue swelling occurs, use 50-100mg/clomid/day + 1mg/arimidex/day(less maywork but why take a chance).
Do this until the swelling subsides then reduce to 1/2 tab/arim + alternate 50mg/clomid EOD. How and when this is done has many variables. Like if youchoose to remain on juice.
One big aspect to examine is, how high/long has estro been allowed to go.
What happened to me was I didn't do my own research when I discovered the wonderful drug arimidex. So, doing what every other horse shit eating fuck would do(beleiving the shit I read on the boards) I stopping the clomid and hit the arimidex 1mg/day.
Within a week painful swollen glands.
Though arimidex inhibited any further aromitization, it didn't do shit at keeping the high levels that were already present from attaching to hungry estro receptors.
!!!!GODDAMNIT!!!!

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THESAINT
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posted May 14, 2000 09:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for THESAINT   Click Here to Email THESAINT     Edit/Delete Message
Lutalyse site inj directly into the gyno
has been shown to eliminate it.

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E2
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posted May 14, 2000 09:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for E2   Click Here to Email E2     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 54337564
Ranger seriously you need to see a speach therapist get than damn stuttering fixed!!!

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The Ranger
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posted May 14, 2000 10:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Ranger   Click Here to Email The Ranger     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 67366885
My fucking eyebrow fell off....quit fucking with me ya fucker....hahahahahahahaha!!

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300 kleen
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posted May 14, 2000 11:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 300 kleen   Click Here to Email 300 kleen     Edit/Delete Message
Macrophage69alpha,

Do you have any of the studies on hand? I've done quite a bit of research in this area and I really haven't found anything that would suggest that there is an alternative to the reduction of preexisting gyno other than surgery. All the studies that I have read state that it is still unclear.

Later

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macrophage69alpha
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posted May 15, 2000 12:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for macrophage69alpha   Click Here to Email macrophage69alpha     Edit/Delete Message
ONLY ANECDOTAL REPORTS- NO STUDIES- BUT THERE WONT BE, I SERIOUSLY DOUBT THAT EVEN TRIALS WOULD BE APPROVED UNDER WITH CURRENT POLITICAL INTERFERENCE IN DRUG POLICY.
gyno is a strange affliction in many people the swelling of the gland may reverse itself completely on its own- though for some I will agree that surgury-is currently- the only sure alternative.

I have also witnessed reduction in others using pgf2a-at least with fatty tissue reduction.

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glenbenton
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posted May 15, 2000 01:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for glenbenton   Click Here to Email glenbenton     Edit/Delete Message
i got gyno from androstene and iv never done a real cycle of juice. iv had the gyno for almost 2 years so im not sure how to tell if its the gland or if its fatty tissue. i did go to my doctor last year and he didnt do jack shit. he said surgery was bad cause it would cause my nipples to sink into my chest or some shit like that. i hope when i go again this week hell write me a script for the armidex

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elite hot topic
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posted May 15, 2000 11:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for elite hot topic   Click Here to Email elite hot topic     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 24539228
man i had the operation if it is doen correctly that sinking only lasts for your firts 2 or 2 chet workouts. It realy is not that bad just keep on test to maintain size while on the couch.

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glenbenton
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posted May 15, 2000 06:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for glenbenton   Click Here to Email glenbenton     Edit/Delete Message
hey elite did you have to pay for the surgery or did the insurance cover it?

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glenbenton
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posted May 15, 2000 10:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for glenbenton   Click Here to Email glenbenton     Edit/Delete Message
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100acrewoods
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posted May 16, 2000 12:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 100acrewoods   Click Here to Email 100acrewoods     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 30177303
I personally have used arimidex for gyno and it did seem to stop the progression of gyno, but it did not reverse it until I was off everything. And it didn't seem to take effect until about the 2nd week that I was off. But the dosage that is recomended by Dave Palumbo is not effective. You have to take at least 1 tab/day, and at the cost of it, unless you can get a script for it and have the insurance pay, then it would be cost prohibitive. Without insurance, 30 tabs is 186.50. With ins, $15.00 for 30 tabs.

Most doctors might perscribe it to a male, but ins will not cover it if you are male.

e-mail for details.

Peace

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glenbenton
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posted May 17, 2000 06:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for glenbenton   Click Here to Email glenbenton     Edit/Delete Message
bump for twistedsteel

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