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 YES, You Can Make Gains on a D-Bol Only Cycle!!
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2Thick Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 2103) |
posted May 14, 2000 06:06 PM
  
I WOULD LIKE TO DISPELL THE D-BOL ONLY MYTH Listen guys, you will actually keep the gains made from D-Bol if you have a good clean up, taper and cycle. Of course you will lose the water weight (which should be expected), but you will keep the lean body mass that was attained during the cycle. Your gains may be more pronounced when used in conjunction with an injectable, but you will gain muscle, none-the-less. If everything is done correctly and you use clomid EOD, then you can keep about 10-15 pounds during a D-bol only cycle. Once again, diet is essential and so is rest. Jon ------------------ IP: Logged |
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mostmuscular Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 76) |
posted May 14, 2000 06:10 PM
is that clomid EOD from the start of the cycle??? IP: Logged |
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2Thick Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 2103) |
posted May 14, 2000 06:15 PM
Yes, that is 50mg/EOD from day one. Then 100mg/day for 7 days (beginning the day after you last D-Bol tab) and 50mg/day for the next 7 days. Jon ------------------ IP: Logged |
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300 kleen Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 1343) |
posted May 14, 2000 08:11 PM
That sounds right to me, 2Thick! ------------------ IP: Logged |
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CornFed Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 51) |
posted May 14, 2000 08:22 PM
I agree I've done it...went from 187 to 205 and kept it for 3 months after..Ditto IP: Logged |
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delts Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 88) |
posted May 14, 2000 09:47 PM
Good post Jon, this topic has been discussed many times with varying answers. Obviously an injectable would help immensely, but nonetheless, it can be done. delts ------------------ IP: Logged |
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costanza Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 14) |
posted May 14, 2000 10:13 PM
Good post, I'll be waiting to see if this works for me. Seems good so far. Why do people say dbol should only be taken early in the day? If you were taking 50 mg / day and wanted to take 10 mg at night what would be the problem with that? IP: Logged |
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Ph4t Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 82) |
posted May 14, 2000 11:31 PM
i'm already into my 3rd week of 750 mg's of sus a week. if i start to take the clomid now is it a bad thing? i'm planning on a winny/primo stack in 4 weeks (right when i'm finished my sus).. comments and info please IP: Logged |
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2Thick Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 2103) |
posted May 14, 2000 11:43 PM
It would be no problem to take 50mg/eod starting now. It is a good decision to start the Winny/Primo stack right when you finish the Sus cycle. Jon ------------------ IP: Logged |
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macrophage69alpha Moderator (Total posts: 1376) |
posted May 15, 2000 12:19 AM
It seems to me that D-bol is a strange drug- as most of its effects are not AR mediated. From anecdotal evidence- it seems that dbol is dose dependent in some individuals and not in others- ie no greater gains with higher doses- some people really respond to this drug while others get mostly water weight gain- this may be a function of aromatase levels, however it seems that the non AR mediated anabolic actions of D-bol vary considerably among individuals- This seems to be true to one extent or another with all the 17 alkylates just food for thought ------------------ IP: Logged |
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JayCee Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 8) |
posted May 15, 2000 02:11 AM
I have to agree with 2Thick on this one I always keep 75%of my gains with just D-bol also I am one of those guys who has to take 8 a day to get results. I have even used D-bol to cut- 6 a day and nothing but chicken for 8 weeks all I lost was bodyfat no size or strength losses IP: Logged |
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Quadzilla43 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 388) |
posted May 15, 2000 10:39 AM
so 2thick, it seems the general consensus is that if u are on just dbol you should eat much cleaner than u would if u were on a typical bulking cycle (dbol, sus, deca)? i know guys that when they are on that bulking cycle they eat everything and anything, but it seems like when someone does that on just dbol, thats when they lose 80% of their gains. what do u, or anyone else, think? ------------------ IP: Logged |
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dahmer Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 142) |
posted May 15, 2000 10:37 PM
2Thick, How many week d-bol only cycle are you talking about? I thought 5 weeks is max?? and how many a day? Also, would Nolvadex be necessary? Or is the Clomid EOD and two weeks after enough to keep gyno at bay? [This message has been edited by dahmer (edited May 15, 2000).] IP: Logged |
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costanza Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 14) |
posted May 15, 2000 10:42 PM
Update. I am doing this right now. One week in (or it might be 6 days, I can't remember) I have a weight gain of 6.9 lbs. (started at 175.8 at 5'8" now 182.7 lbs.) My theory is a short cycle with higher doses may work. I started out with 30 mg/day but then upped it to 40-50 mg/day to make sure one way or another if it was fake, but this may be unnecessary now that I can tell it's working. Diet has not felt particularly heavy, but pretty sloppy with a lot of carbs. I guess I would rather gain out of this than be too cautious. I train heavy but do take days off. What is weird is I have been rollerblading into a strong wind a couple of days ("cardio" I thought) but I gained weight instead of shrinking. Anway it's pizza time and I'll let you know how it's going in another week. IP: Logged |
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dahmer Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 142) |
posted May 16, 2000 01:11 AM
Bump Anyone?? IP: Logged |
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cockdezl Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 57) |
posted May 16, 2000 09:17 AM
"I WOULD LIKE TO DISPELL THE D-BOL ONLY MYTH Listen guys, you will actually keep the gains made from D-Bol if you have a good clean up, taper and cycle." My question is "Why would you not think that you could not gain muscle while on a DBOL only cycle?" IP: Logged |
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quadzilla34 Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 19) |
posted May 16, 2000 09:31 AM
because when a guy asks that on the board some bros tell him he needs to inject some test or he wont grow. when the guy says hell just take some orals instead, he finds out that theyre mostly harsh on the liver. so, since he never tries the dbol only cycle, the idea gets in his head that it doesnt work. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Thick dog Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 163) |
posted May 16, 2000 09:36 AM
What about an anadrol only cycle? IP: Logged |
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SubZero Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 27) |
posted May 16, 2000 09:44 AM
Isn't Anadrol pretty much the same thing, just another name? IP: Logged |
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Thick dog Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 163) |
posted May 16, 2000 09:48 AM
Dbol comes in 5 mg tabs. Anadrol comes in 50 mg tabs. IP: Logged |
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quadzilla34 Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 19) |
posted May 16, 2000 09:50 AM
subzero, u might be thinking of anabol. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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SubZero Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 27) |
posted May 16, 2000 09:58 AM
Quad*, they just all sort of ryhme with each other don't they, I have to admit I have a pretty good memory but I just can't keep up with all these different names, I suppose I am in the wrong job, I should have been a chemist or something would have been easier to get all this stuff that's for sure *l* IP: Logged |
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CornFed Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 51) |
posted May 17, 2000 08:38 PM
Anadrol and Dbol are not the same thing. though they share many of the same side effects anadrol is stronger in my opinion but harsher on the liver. IP: Logged |
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mossberg Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 200) |
posted May 17, 2000 08:53 PM
Would taking a mild over the counter diuretic while on d-bol have that much if any of a negative effect on strength?? Or should one not worry about the water retention when on d-bol and just let it do its job? IP: Logged |
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