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RoNiN
Pro Bodybuilder
(Total posts: 127)
posted May 11, 2000 12:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RoNiN     Edit/Delete Message

I used myself as a lab rat to test the theory of short cycles (see www.testostrone.net). I did this because if it works it would be safer and healthier than long cycles. Also I'm not interested in getting big and then having it disappear after I stop , I wanted to keep as much as possible. So I gave it a shot and here are the results:

Net BodyWeight Changes: 0 lbs

Week 1: 250mg of Sust250 and
30 mgs Dbol per Day
450mgs Nor-19 per Day

Week 2: 250mg of Sust250
30 mgs Dbol per Day
450mgs Nor-19 per Day

Week 3: 250mg of Sust250
20 mgs Dbol per Day
450mgs Nor-19 per Day

Net BodyWeight Changes: +14 lbs

Week 4: 3 grams of Tribulus per day
Week 5: 3 grams of Tribulus per day
Week 6: 2 grams of Tribulus per day
Did not train this week (rest week)

Net BodyWeight Changes: -8 lbs

Week 7: Loading dose of Cell-Tech

Week 8: Maint. dose of Cell-Tech

Net BodyWeight Changes: +7 lbs

Week 9: 250mg of Sust250 and
30 mgs Dbol per Day
450mgs Nor-19 per Day

Net BodyWeight Changes: +3 lbs


I'm still on the 2nd cycle but now that I'm about 15lbs heavier and still gaining I think it's safe to say that it's working. With that
5 week gap between the cycles should prove that the stuff was out of the system before I started up again.

The good news is not that I gained the weight and got bigger but because of the following:

side effects: none , except for shrinkage which came back after a few weeks.

Cost: Low , I'm taking half the amounts of the "typical" cycles and I'm making the
same amount of progress.

Streagth: My lifts in the gym are improving a
little bit. Keep in mind I have been bodybuilding for 7 years.

Alot of the weight is water weight however the size is there and as long is the water
is in the muscle I'm happy.

All of the information is legit and nothing is bullshit. I only wish that you guys who are not convinced could see what I look now compared to before I started. EVERYONE who knows me can tell there is a difference and I have weighted myself on two different scales.

IMPORTANT NOTE:

A very important note is that I'm not gaining all this mass just because of the above. Consistent quality training and consistent quality dieting is critical. The only reason I have made this progress is because I'm training hard and eating lots of quality food throughout the day and this extra help is the reason for the progess.

Good luck to all...

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RoNiN
Pro Bodybuilder
(Total posts: 127)
posted May 11, 2000 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RoNiN     Edit/Delete Message
Sorry guys ... www.testosterone.net

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tray renfro
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted May 11, 2000 12:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tray renfro   Click Here to Email tray renfro     Edit/Delete Message
im sure if you had used clomid w/ the tribulus and rested for 2-4 days instead of a week, you would have not lost that 8lbs. im on a short cycle now, i'll let you guys know how it goes.

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tray renfro?!?!
today is the first day of the rest of your life!

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msg
Amateur Bodybuilder
(Total posts: 56)
posted May 11, 2000 08:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for msg   Click Here to Email msg     Edit/Delete Message
guy by the name of sledge uses these Boressen type cycles.

At about 3 weeks your body will shut down test production, so make sure that all the test is out of your blood by the 21st day, then with cytadren, clomid and t3, you can increase the metabolism just enough, block all the cortisol and estrogen and have it out in time before the cortisol is rebouned, and the clomid will keep the nuts going. do a last short cycle to help to solidfy the gains. the test production stays stable and the prop gives you the little bit of androgen with the primo without the h20 retention.

it would look like:

days 1-11 500mgs a day of test enathate, followed by 400 mgs of prop every other day till day 17, then on the 18 day, go to t3, cytadren and clomid for the next 2 weeks then, 600mgs of primo on days 1 and 7 after the cytadren cycle. and 200mgs of prop every
third day till the day before the last day.
to summarize:
days 1 -18: test enanthate ,prop
days 18-33: cytadren,clomid,t3 days 33-48: primo depot, prop, clomid


peace

ps - people have done the above cycle and gained and held onto 25 lbs lbm!

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Jay Z
Pro Bodybuilder
(Total posts: 218)
posted May 11, 2000 09:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jay Z   Click Here to Email Jay Z     Edit/Delete Message
Yea, ok, we're going to inject 500mg of test a day for 10 days...heheh Are you in a hurry to get big or are you racing against time?

"days 1-11 500mgs a day of test enathate, followed by 400 mgs of prop every other day till day 17, then on the 18 day, go to t3, cytadren and clomid for the next 2 weeks then, 600mgs of primo on days 1 and 7 after the cytadren cycle. and 200mgs of prop every
third day till the day before the last day.
to summarize:
days 1 -18: test enanthate ,prop
days 18-33: cytadren,clomid,t3 days 33-48: primo depot, prop, clomid
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Krusher
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted May 11, 2000 10:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Krusher     Edit/Delete Message
this is just what I've been dying to hear about. Glad to see it's workin, I'll try it myself soon and I'll post my results.

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msg
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted May 11, 2000 11:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for msg   Click Here to Email msg     Edit/Delete Message
jayZ
it really works dude. maybe it is not for you or some others but it was good for 25 lean lbs in almost 50 days!
peace

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