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BigJay81 Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 39) |
posted May 11, 2000 12:30 AM
  
Yo here it is, For a while I have been debating between several cycles stacked with just about everthing possible But damn it this is what I am going to do and I am going to like it and so is everyone else. I am going to look Friggin Huge. Now I am 5'10" 193lbs. BF%9 I know I will be at least 20lbs heavier just due to some great genetics. Week-Sust250--Clomid Simple and sweet. Well any comments are welcome good or bad In my eyes all advice is good. Thankyou for all of the help. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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MattTheSkywalker Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 717) |
posted May 11, 2000 12:35 AM
I would recommend 750 mg sust. I would also recommend you get some d-bols and take 30mg/week to get some test into your system quickly. Sust won't really hit you until week 3 or 4. You can do a stand alone sust cycle and make decent gains. But I still think the sust/deca/dbol is the best newbie cycle. deca will also help ease the pain of injection. Sust can be a little painful for 1st time users. Matt
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studcj Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 831) |
posted May 11, 2000 12:40 AM
even though I have never used, I say get some d-bol in there too. test and d-bol kind of go hand in hand ya know. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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BigJay81 Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 39) |
posted May 11, 2000 01:04 AM
I also agree with all of your opinons but this is it. Mind is made up stuburn ------------------ IP: Logged |
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2Thick Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 1819) |
posted May 11, 2000 01:11 AM
Forget the test. You should do a Primo/Deca cycle. The Deca will give you amazing gains without having to resort to test. You have good genetics, so the Deca is the best option. Think about this for a moment. If you use 500-750mg of test for your first cycle, then how much do you use for your second cycle...1000mg? ------------------ IP: Logged |
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E2 Moderator (Total posts: 2912) |
posted May 11, 2000 10:25 AM
2thick is wrong, take the test, and up the dose to 750 as Matt said, you will have great gains and it doens't mean that next time you'll have to go higher in doseage to see results. Did you really say that deca will give amazing gains???? IP: Logged |
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2Thick Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 1819) |
posted May 11, 2000 01:05 PM
E2, I think your ego is getting the better of your basic AS knowledge. Saying that "someone is wrong" when talking about AS dosages is speaking as if you were the only one who knows what is going on. Trust me when I say that Deca will give you great gains. It is better, in my opinion, than test for quality and lasting gains. Test is better left for the later cycles when you need an extra kick to make great gains. We are talking about newbies and not hard-core veterans. And, YES, you will have to keep using higher dosages to get bigger gains in the future. Jon ------------------ IP: Logged |
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WILDTHINGURI Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 102) |
posted May 11, 2000 01:16 PM
BRO THROW IN SOME DBOL.. USE THE SUST.. TAKE E2S ADVICE.. 2 THICK IM NOT DISSING YOU , YOU DEFINATELY KNOW YOUR SHIT.. PEACE BRO IP: Logged |
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big_guy1 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 679) |
posted May 11, 2000 02:08 PM
throw in some d-bol...also move backt he clomid a couple week after the last sus injection b/c sus is a four week taper, only taking clomid the two weeks after there will still be testo floating around in your system, move it back one-two weeks(I would say two) and throw ina nother week at 50mg a day big-guy IP: Logged |
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big_guy1 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 679) |
posted May 11, 2000 02:08 PM
throw in some d-bol...also move backt he clomid a couple week after the last sus injection b/c sus is a four week taper, only taking clomid the two weeks after there will still be testo floating around in your system, move it back one-two weeks(I would say two) and throw ina nother week at 50mg a day big-guy IP: Logged |
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alwaysniceguy Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 86) |
posted May 11, 2000 02:17 PM
here is my .02$ i did 1 little bottle of deca(nor50) and netted 30lbs. was my first cycle. for my 2nd cycle, did sust.250 @500 per wk for 10 wks, gained 10lbs. now my muscle quality was much better though. I now wished i had done 750 of sust. at least through the later half of that cycle. as for dbol, i would save it til for a future cycle. if your not sure u can inject urself, use the deca. it wont run you nearly as much as sust.250 will and u can use a much smaller needle. i rember looking at those cannons for the redijects, glad i got something smaller. its your call. some say use sust.250 some say deca, for newbie cycles. i have used both now. and a few guys make sense, if ur going that high, how high will u have to go next time? use the least amount necessary to produce gains. and i have to tell ya, there is no damn MAGIC PILL!! if you do not consume at LEAST 1 gram of protein per pound of your bodyweight, daily, u will be dissapointed in ur gains. I say, get to 300-400 grams a day and you will like the gains. NICE ------------------ IP: Logged |
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SSMAN Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 182) |
posted May 11, 2000 02:27 PM
Deca doesn't require a different needle than the sust. The redijects come with a small pipe for a pin, but you don't use that pin. Replace it with a 22g x 1.5" and you'll be fine. As for your cycle, you would be best to ditch the stubborn attitude and listen. I'm currently on a cycle of reforvit/sust/EQ. week sust ref eq reforvit doses are daily....dose id divided into 4 (taken every 6 hours) [This message has been edited by SSMAN (edited May 11, 2000).] [This message has been edited by SSMAN (edited May 11, 2000).] IP: Logged |
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